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You quoted my statement and responded with this. You have serious comprehension issues.

No I comprehend just fine, I'm sick of your union reps. I'm glad you feel different then your reps. But the majority of your pilot group voted for them to represent you. If that represents the majority of your pilot group, don't expect me to kiss up as you walk by.
 
Your Mec requested to put many senior CA's behind FO's, that speaks volumes. You talk about zero point in releasing the letter. I'm glad 9L released that letter, I wish XJ had as well. It only further shows how 9E's union is filled with back scene fighting, little cohesion with the XJ, & 9L's negotiating teams, pure selfishness. I remember a few months back we were all supposed to stand together and the Pinnacle union told their boys to walk the picket line against the wishes of the other two unions. 9E is in it for themselves and couldn't give a ******************** about the true goal of a strong unified and merged pilot group. There was potential to make this great, they chose greed. If a Mesaba guy doesn't kiss your ass when you walk by, tough luck. You got our contract, our planes, and maybe soon our seats. Your union is a bunch of parasites. The only saving grace is once we're merge these yahoos will be voted out by the majority.

Hear Hear!!! 9E's MEC have proven their kind words do not match up at all with their actions. This was very important for everyone to know. These guys are the self serving, cut throat types that I don't want in charge of any union I am part of. That type of union will produce little more than antagonism, anger and halted progress. A new leadership is needed!
 
The 9E MEC didnt do anything. According to ALPA's new merger policy it states that the respective merger committees are supposed to be autonomous from the MEC. All the MEC did was select the members and they are not supposed to give orders to the committee. I think to blame it on the 9E MEC would be unfair when you dont know the details on how the policy is intended to work. The 9E and 9L merger committees dont have a single MEC member on it which is how its supposed to work. XJ's Merger Committee Chair is also their MEC Vice Chair. Hard to be autonomous when you have MEC reps on the committee
 
The 9E MEC didnt do anything. According to ALPA's new merger policy it states that the respective merger committees are supposed to be autonomous from the MEC. All the MEC did was select the members and they are not supposed to give orders to the committee....


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Well, it looks like Mr. Bloch is going to make us all wait till the very last minute. I can't imagine that he is still working on it, so why not just release it so we can all move on with our lives????
 
I heard that us pilots might not see anything until Wednesday because the mecs have to review it. I would hope they would at least give us a brief summary before all us pilots go crazy
 
Everything's done at close of bidness Friday...that way you can't barrage the HQ with angy phone calls, emails, etc...remember way back when they announced that there would be no company-sponsored Christmas parties? Five PM Friday...sorry, there's no one to take your call....
 
Everything's done at close of bidness Friday...that way you can't barrage the HQ with angy phone calls, emails, etc...remember way back when they announced that there would be no company-sponsored Christmas parties? Five PM Friday...sorry, there's no one to take your call....

Know as the "F-You Fridays" on the XJ campus.
 
Murph-you had to have asked if they were gonna shoot it out when they got it....?
I believe it depends in what form it comes back in. Formula or list. If it's some sort of formula there may be a delay to digest. Even then, there might be a delay to make a unified statement. I'm sure they will let us know as soon as they can.

Until then, it's out of our control. And you should never stress over issues that are out of your control.
 
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I believe it depends in what form it comes back in. Formula or list. If it's some sort of formula there may be a delay to digest. Even then, there might be a delay to make a unified statement. I'm sure they will let us know as soon as they can.

Until then, it's out of our control. And you should never stress over issues that are out of your control.


You mean that he is taking all this time and he may not even do the math? I don't know about this guy. :P
 
I believe it depends in what form it comes back in. Formula or list. If it's some sort of formula there may be a delay to digest. Even then, there might be a delay to make a unified statement. I'm sure they will let us know as soon as they can.

Until then, it's out of our control. And you should never stress over issues that are out of your control.


Finally something we disagree on. I didn't have any contol over getting furloughed, and it sure as sh!t stressed me out. :)
 
Finally something we disagree on. I didn't have any contol over getting furloughed, and it sure as sh!t stressed me out. :)
Understandable. But no ones going to lose their jobs in this, and those that were furloughed will have over 300 newhires below them no matter how the integration goes. Also, no one can lose their current seat. It's out of our hands for now, and we can only individually hope for the solution that is best for each of us.

Sleep well my friend. We'll know our fate soon!
 
Dont know if this is true. From another site:

Colgan ALPA

Arbitrator Bloch has informed us that his decision on the combined seniority list is complete but he wishes to give it a final review over the weekend. Please stay tuned for more information.
 
Dont know if this is true. From another site:

Colgan ALPA

Arbitrator Bloch has informed us that his decision on the combined seniority list is complete but he wishes to give it a final review over the weekend. Please stay tuned for more information.


Ugh. Hasn't he been giving it a final review this past week of lateness? When I have a paper due for school, I get it done by the due date. I'm just sayin'.
 
The list is done he just wants the weekend to review it it will be sent to the unions the next question is when do the unions release it?
 
I believe it depends in what form it comes back in. Formula or list. If it's some sort of formula there may be a delay to digest. Even then, there might be a delay to make a unified statement. I'm sure they will let us know as soon as they can.

Until then, it's out of our control. And you should never stress over issues that are out of your control.

According to the email last week, he is almost done. When it says we will receive it by today, that what it means. I'm sure by 5 pm we will all know our fate.
 
I guess I should have read the last few posts. This is getting old. If the list is out, and NO changes can be made to his decision, what purpose is it to have the unions sit on? Gimme a break. Release the stupid list already. We're all big boys, we can handle it.
 
Arbitrator Bloch has informed us that his decision on the combined seniority list is complete but he wishes to give it a final review over the weekend. Please stay tuned for more information.

Message from Colgan ALPA MEC last night
 
Message from Colgan ALPA MEC last night

May 13, 2011

Today, Mr. Bloch has contacted the three Merger Committee chairmen regarding the Seniority List Integration Decision. He has indicated that his Decision and Award is almost complete and will be released on or before next Friday, May 20.



This guy is a flat out lier. Someone needs to put the heat on him. He has a job to do and is being paid for his services. If he said it will be done today, then that is the expectation that I have. Enough of the games. I hope all 3 unions let this guy know that this is not acceptable.
 
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My personal opinion is that I would rather it be right when it is published, rather than 6 amendments to correct mistakes. If it takes the weekend to do that, the so be it.
 
My personal opinion is that I would rather it be right when it is published, rather than 6 amendments to correct mistakes. If it takes the weekend to do that, the so be it.
He has had plenty of time to complete the list and review any mistakes. Don't forget the list was supposed to be done over a week ago. He is just stalling for whatever reason.
 
May 13, 2011

Today, Mr. Bloch has contacted the three Merger Committee chairmen regarding the Seniority List Integration Decision. He has indicated that his Decision and Award is almost complete and will be released on or before next Friday, May 20.



This guy is a flat out lier. Someone needs to put the heat on him. He has a job to do and is being paid for his services. If he said it will be done today, then that is the expectation that I have. Enough of the games. I hope all 3 unions let this guy know that this is not acceptable.

He ran out of staples late last night and with the end of the world coming and everything, he needed more time!! give the man a break.
 

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