PLEASE use your full call sign!!

[Hawkered]

OPTIONS 913! You guys in that Legacy got everything screwed up the other day on New York departures out of Teterboro. We had an EXECJET 913 that took an altitude change for you that was corrected by another Netjets crew.

YOU ARE NOT "NINE THIRTEEN"! YOU are "OPTIONS 913".

For crying out loud guys, yuou have a company callsign-freakin' well use it!!

 

[kf4amu]

Professional pilots know when to use nonstandard phraseology

I hear ya. Too many people think they know how to communicate better than the AIM.

 

[Basil]

Any more details?

I'm curious how OPTIONS 913 caused EXECJET 913 to take their clearance? Granted, the FLOPS crew should use their full callsign, but how did that contribute to this incident? Am I missing something here?

 

[ProFracPilot]

I'm curious how OPTIONS 913 caused EXECJET 913 to take their clearance?

That's easy. Because it's never EJA's fault.

For crying out loud guys, yuou have a company callsign-freakin' well use it!!

Options crews certainly don't have the market cornered on the use of non-standard phraseology. This is a good example of why we should all adhere to the AIM and pilot-controller glossary. But having a brain aneurysm while lashing out at the crew flying OPT913 that day probably isn't the most productive way to communicate your thoughts on the matter.

 

[LarryinTN]

I hear ya. Too many people think they know how to communicate better than the AIM.

Yeah, you see them every time there's a thread on phraseology. All sorts of reasons why their way is better than the what it says in the AIM.

 

[o2bflyn]

I could not agree more that you should use your full callsign, but I think I am missing something. How is its Options fault that NJA guy took the clearance?? Did the controller not use Options callsign? What am I missing?

 

[mxer]

Usually starts with the controller using the call sign, then crew reads back. If you answered someone elses clearence when the controller called, wouldn't that be your own fault. I wasn't there. Not passing blame. More details may be in order before an attack is made.

 

[dime line]

I have never made any mistakes in my years of flying, I'm so darn perfect......


Get real.

 

[YankeeEcho]

PLEASE USE YOUR FULL CALL SIGN!!

Even simpler - if you fly a QS aircraft - don't let ATC sucker you into saying '6QS' or '7QS' - use all the digits. I can't tell you how many times there have been two QS planes on the same frequency that have the same 'final' digit!!

 

[GooseHZ]

....

Dude get over yourself.....u have to be blast to fly with....

 

[NCherches]

Maybe we should all get Canadian Call-signs...

 

[BEfly]

Did you get violated?

 

[XTW]

Did you get violated?

There was this one time back in band camp, errr:erm:, never mind.

 

[993_Pilot]

OPTIONS 913! You guys in that Legacy got everything screwed up the other day on New York departures out of Teterboro. . .

When was this? OPT913 hasn't been to TEB at least since before the 25th according to Flight Aware.

And please enlighten us as to how Netjets A/C taking an Options clearance is the fault of the options pilots. . . there must be more to it ???

 

[flyipilot]

If a clearance was givin to Options 913 and the call back was just "913", then Exec Jet 913 actually flew to that altitude...it sounds like the Execjet screwed up and they were the ones who messed up the ATC communication. The other Execjet must have made a comment as to who that might have been for and that was how it was caught. To me, I think Options did nothing wrong based on the original post.

 

[GSXR600]

Maybe we should all get Canadian Call-signs...

WE LOVE OURS HERE AT FLEX-JET ON 135 LEGS TANGO...NOVEMBER ..XXX FOX X-RAY......NOT EVEN THE CONTROLLERS CAN SAY IT RIGTH SOMETIMES.

 

[GSXR600]

But really!!......... why Mr. HAWKERED can't give us a better explanation about this....???
Most people agreed here that this was NJ's fault.
Is there more to the story?? anyone??

 

[Hawkered]

Yep you guys are right! We are perfect!

Except for one thing...it was Options that took the read back for Netjets according to my F/O so I did screw that up!

Anyway nobody got into trouble and this has been another good company bashing thread brought to you by www.idontgivea********************.com

 

[av8orboy]

It gets fun when we have seven 9AF's talking to boston.

 

[Hawkered]

Yeah, my point exactly. Let's all spread the word...FULL company callsigns with all read backs!

Thanks to all!