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Is a Baron even certified for flight into known icing?

Someone may have mentioned this dude but if the temp is less than 10c and there is visible moisture (i.e. cloud) you will get ice. And yes it even happens in Florida during the summer out of about 14k if the conditions are right. You dont need a Pirep to sort this out.

If you get a winds aloft forecast it has the temps on it. When you see 0 C thats your freezing level. Stay below it and you should be ok. During winter in most parts of the US it goes down to the ground so it may not matter. If your aircraft is not certified for known ice and doesnt have boots, TKS, whatever stay out of the clouds when the temp is less than 10 c.

Pireps are from a time in aviation when computers, internet, duats, and all that neat stuff you can use at the FBO ever came about. Back when radar didnt even exist and the best wx info came from pilots that flew the route ahead. These days real time wx info makes pireps less necessary. That being said a forecast is a forecast not a guarantee. Even a pirep is useless after 15 minutes.

Pick up a good aviation wx book and learn about wx. A knowledgeable pilot will know when to expect turbulence, icing, etc by using simple weather info from FSS like the synopsis, temp, winds, etc. If you need someone to tell you when its ok or not ok to fly you need to hit the books a little harder.
 
Pireps are always welcomed... by every position are PIREP forms... we write out any info that is passed by the pilot and then it is sent down to the Wx office. The Wx office then enters the data into computers and as far as I know that info is available to FSS as soon as it is entered. (though I can't swear to that :D )

If we continue to see A/C asking for altitude changes, deviations, etc. at a particualr location we'll write it up on our own.
 
my baron is certified for flight into known ice but i never rely on my boots and all my other anti ice/deice **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED** to work. There is never a trip that important. And i know when to expect ice. Its just nice to get a UA stating severe mixed, or light trace, or moderate rime.....something of that nature.....of course i understand visiable moisture and temps are critical. I know where to expect turbulance. Its just nice to get a report from someone who has just gone through it. Severe turbulance reported by a 757 would probably keep me on the ground if i read it. Just basic stuff like that.

Anyways, didn't want to offend anyone. We are all supposed to be friends here. We are adults. Why does it seem everyone has to up eachother each time.

And why does anyone care if a baron bores me? It's just not that much fun flying some of the pricks that i fly.
 
Lrjtcaptain said:

And why does anyone care if a baron bores me? It's just not that much fun flying some of the pricks that i fly.

You ungratefull whacko! If you can't deal with one or two weirdo's what are you going to do when you get 20? Tell daddy you want a job where you draw a check and never leave the house.

RT
 
I picked up some trace ice out of 8,500' coming out JAC last week. Just thought you should know dude.
 
How's this for a pirep?

PIREP 03:58Z 12/22/02
BWG UUA /OV BWG/TM 0358/FL050/TP P34R/TB CONT MOD-SEV TB 030-050/RM GETTING THE SNOT BEAT OUT OF ME

Thats a nice descriptive remark - or at least a mental image I'd rather not have :)
 
i've flown a baron into known icing, seen my airspeed drop to 130 and still been fine.... there is nothing to be scared of when your in icing with a Baron... its probably one of the best performers in icing. You dont like it, climb out of it... Baron can fly at 10,000ft.
 
Heeeeeeeey

Hey, Lr

Is being mentally unstable holding you back any?

Just wondering...............................



Lrjtcaptain said:
you are all pissing me off, i dont' depend of FSS for WX, they give me the standard and thats fine. I listen, i look at all the charts and **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED**. If you **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED**ing understood where im coming from then that would be fine but you all are just acting like you are all just the **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED**
 
alrighty guys....enough.
mentaly unstable......I am semi mentaly unstable. :-)

the baron does perform well in the ice. I just look at the wx, know there will be ice.....but never know what kinds of accumulation to expect. as in should i file for a lower alt or higher, am i going to be able too shoot through the layer or no. I just like to read the pireps because its a great way of knowing what to expect. OUr WX centers aren't the greatest but they do.

I just make it a point to submit everyflight.....
 
Lrjtcaptain said:

Anyways, didn't want to offend anyone. We are all supposed to be friends here. We are adults. Why does it seem everyone has to up eachother each time.

You just offended every student pilot that visits these boards with the private message posted by someone else. Go back to the days of being hungry and relying on that student to put the ramen noodles on your plate.
 

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