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G4dude: when the Union frustrates you, keep this in mind

I believe companies should fire anyone they want to, especially those who try to organize union representation. Our jobs don't belong to us. We are paid if we provide a valued service to the employer. If I owned a company, I would fire organizers immediately. Union types are generally lazy, negative, and less productive. With some exceptions, of course.
 
I believe companies should fire anyone they want to, especially those who try to organize union representation. Our jobs don't belong to us. We are paid if we provide a valued service to the employer. If I owned a company, I would fire organizers immediately. Union types are generally lazy, negative, and less productive. With some exceptions, of course.

Well, you've got a perfect example right there at Netjets of where that attitude will land you. Those Gulfstreams were a runaway shop and the union eventually won. Damn well bet the union did own those jobs! Mgt and Gulfstream had it proven to them in a court. What you're saying is basucally illegal, but certainly proves you're an a$$hole.
 
Well, you've got a perfect example right there at Netjets of where that attitude will land you. Those Gulfstreams were a runaway shop and the union eventually won. Damn well bet the union did own those jobs! Mgt and Gulfstream had it proven to them in a court. What you're saying is basucally illegal, but certainly proves you're an a$$hole.

I am saying it shouldn't be illegal. If I take the risk and do the grinding work of starting a company, I should have the right to hire and fire who I wish. And the union won by coercing Santulli into giving up. No democratic process there. A union vote at NJI would have lost 85/15 percent, in my opinion.
 
I own a company, and I certainly don't believe that I should have the right to crush a union drive. I can imagine nothing more un-American.
 
I own a company, and I certainly don't believe that I should have the right to crush a union drive. I can imagine nothing more un-American.

I respect your opinion. I just don't agree. I would never advocate thuggish behavior in stopping a unionizing effort, but I would want to fire the employees involved, and wish them well in their future employment. Another way to state this general philosophy: I would HATE it if NJA fired me, but I believe they should have the unfettered right to do so, for any reason.
 
I am saying it shouldn't be illegal. If I take the risk and do the grinding work of starting a company, I should have the right to hire and fire who I wish. And the union won by coercing Santulli into giving up. No democratic process there. A union vote at NJI would have lost 85/15 percent, in my opinion.

The Declaration of Independece reads "We the people", not We the huge faceless corporations... You are not only at the wrong company, you're in the wrong Country. You are free to leave BOTH!! Or, you're also welcome to toe the line pal!!!
 
I would never advocate thuggish behavior in stopping a unionizing effort, but I would want to fire the employees involved

These two statements are mutually exclusive. Firing someone for trying to unionize is thuggish behavior.
 
I respect your opinion. I just don't agree. I would never advocate thuggish behavior in stopping a unionizing effort, but I would want to fire the employees involved, and wish them well in their future employment. Another way to state this general philosophy: I would HATE it if NJA fired me, but I believe they should have the unfettered right to do so, for any reason.


So it's ok if they make you fly a broken Aircraft or bust mins.

I Do not think you believe what you are saying .
 
Awe G4 is back. We missed you. Hope you will make it to Omaha. Thanks for standing strong and having your fellow union brothers and sisters backs.
 

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