Please help a fellow union brother not SCAB.

[outerlimits]

Nope, both are wrong. What company is doing that, pray tell?

I hope your pulling my leg

Many company's Have done that .


As far as who is doing it now , it usually does not come out until a fatal accident.

 

[Flopgut]

I know you are just angry, but I should leave the US because I don't believe in unions?

Not angry. And you're definitley in the wrong place. Literally and figuratively.

 

[ghostrider64]

For those at the majors, please forgive us for the words typed by this idiot, he is fortunately in the minority, I place him in the small group of scabs currently employed at Netjets.

He will never change his "beliefs". How he's able to remain friends with anyone other than scabs is beyond me. Scabs are the only PILOTS he truly respects, because they had the balls to cross a line. In fact he idolizes them because they publicily told all union brothers in good standing to go F themselves.

We at netjets are embarrassed by his words. Unfortunately, the union couldn't prevent him from being hired and now we are stuck with him.

He's a lost cause and I hope the rest here join me in not responding to anything he writes.

 

[outerlimits]

What company makes pilots do those things? Call the FAA if that happens.

It shows you know nothing about the history of aviation .



I will make it easy for you. Go to the NTSB web site and read up on some accidents . That is when you have time away from your Job managing a Chinese sweatshop.

 

[G4dude]

What's worse, the company that forces a pilot to break FARs or the one that rewards pilots that do it without being asked? Regardless of WX or MX, the pilot that gets to the destination without incident must be the best pilot the company has, right?

What company does that? Mine certainly doesn't.

 

[Diesel]

What company does that? Mine certainly doesn't.

If you don't believe any company does it why not become a fee payer instead of a dues payer and give up your union protection?

 

[G4dude]

If you don't believe any company does it why not become a fee payer instead of a dues payer and give up your union protection?

I am sure some companies do these things. I was just curious which companies. I have flown for companies doing these things.

 

[G4dude]

If you don't believe any company does it why not become a fee payer instead of a dues payer and give up your union protection?

When I flew for bad companies, I left and went elsewhere. No Union needed.

 

[Diesel]

I am sure some companies do these things. I was just curious which companies. I have flown for companies doing these things.

Do you even read the union announcements at all?

Do you read the rulings by the FAA in regard to company procedures and not going against the afm?

 

[Diesel]

Btw it's a good thing the latest pilot had a union looking out for his job because the independent third party just awarded his job back.

 

[GlorifiedCabbie]

By what this g4 keeps revealing about himself is 1, he never had to pull his own weight, and 2, he is still living in his parents basement.

 

[G4dude]

By what this g4 keeps revealing about himself is 1, he never had to pull his own weight, and 2, he is still living in his parents basement.

You are absolutely right. And I am a terrible person.

 

[G4dude]

Do you even read the union announcements at all?

Do you read the rulings by the FAA in regard to company procedures and not going against the afm?

We in the Guffstream generally laugh at the union announcements. They are usually hyperbolic and silly and inflammatory. Which, I know, is your specialty. Workers of the world unite and all that class warfare claptrap.

 

[Diesel]

We in the Guffstream generally laugh at the union announcements. They are usually hyperbolic and silly and inflammatory. Which, I know, is your specialty. Workers of the world unite and all that class warfare claptrap.

Actually that isn't true. Most guys I fly with in the gulfstreams have had enough of the bs from the company and feel that the companies propaganda and letters saying they want pay cuts and concessions is insulting.

Even the ones that have pulled you aside many times to explain how wrong your views are and how you're damaging our bargaining leverage especially by wanting to scab.

 

[G4dude]

Actually that isn't true. Most guys I fly with in the gulfstreams have had enough of the bs from the company and feel that the companies propaganda and letters saying they want pay cuts and concessions is insulting.

Even the ones that have pulled you aside many times to explain how wrong your views are and how you're damaging our bargaining leverage especially by wanting to scab.

We obviously are not flying with the same people, which is possible as we are on opposite schedules I suspect. No one has pulled me aside, aside from Gutshotdraw, in a very nice way. Also, I don't want to scab, and probably will not. As I have said several times already. Why do you keep telling people I will scab?

 

[outerlimits]

We obviously are not flying with the same people, which is possible as we are on opposite schedules I suspect. No one has pulled me aside, aside from Gutshotdraw, in a very nice way. Also, I don't want to scab, and probably will not. As I have said several times already. Why do you keep telling people I will scab?

Sounds like your trying to get a management job.


FYI. They typically do not like to hire back stabbers. Enough of that gets done once in the job.

 

[G4dude]

Sounds like your trying to get a management job.


FYI. They typically do not like to hire back stabbers. Enough of that gets done once in the job.

I just want to fly and have fun. No management.

 

[Diesel]

I just want to fly and have fun. No management.

The bank doesn't take fun as a form of payment for my house.

This is a job. I work here to pay the bills. Sure it's fun with the crews but the long nights, crapier hotels, death cab rides, and middle seats are more common than not. All the while my employer actively wants cuts in wages, healthcare and benefits.

Some people choose to live with their head in the sand. They believe it isn't happening.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/njasap-buffetts-netjets-sued-for-unlawful-union-busting-2015-02-27

Take a read about what your employer is going to make sure that they win and we do end up with concessions.