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Plane down in FL keys - 2 dead, 2 missing

cforst513

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heard about it at Epic today. i'll be able to comment more on it later b/c our school is either directly or indirectly involved, but i can't say anything now b/c no facts are known. godspeed to the deceased.... :(

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Was in the keys this morning. Apparently 4 ladies stopped in Key West and tried to get rooms. Being that it is bugging season all rooms were booked so they departed EYW after the tower closed. They were flying 172 XP
 

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a 172 XP or SP? i have never heard of a 172XP.

i know that this is a wild shot in the dark, but do you remember the tailnumber on the aircraft or if it had Epic Aviation written on the vertical stabilizer?
 

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XP's have the 180 hp engines installed, they're older 172's. This is back in the day when the new 172's only came with 150 hp or 160 hp engines (70's I think).

A friend of mine has a 172 on leaseback at epic, and I used to rent out of there. Hopefully it's not connected...

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if it was an older plane, it won't be an epic leaseback plane. oldest single piston there is 1998, and it's a 160hp 172R model. sounds to me like it might not be an epic plane, which is good for the school.
 

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A Hawk XP has the IO-360s - 210 horsepower.
 

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The 172XP has a 195 hp Continental IO-360 6-cylinder with a constant speed prop.
 

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has anyone else heard any info about this accident? so far i've only found the one story from the AP, and the FAA website only goes up to july 29th, not the 30th.
 

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SP or Xp may be I didn't get the correct type but it was 4 ladies that crashed in the evening after tower closed
 

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wheelsup said:
Well, this one has a 180 hp engine...so there must be different varients out there.
Might've just learned something. All the ones I ever flew had 195 stock, 210 or 220 modified.
Thus
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thus.
 

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wheelsup said:
Well, this one has a 180 hp engine...so there must be different varients out there.

This one is not a Hawk XP because it doesn't have cowl flaps or a constant speed prop.
 

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Yeah, I noticed that. I wonder if it's one of those proprietary names that a mod shop used when they put 180-horse Lyc's in straight 172's, like the Penn-Yan conversion.
 
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flyifrvfr said:
This one is not a Hawk XP because it doesn't have cowl flaps or a constant speed prop.

AST Hawk Level 3 Flight Simulator. This is the only hawk that Epic advertises. I hope this isn't the crashed Hawk in question because I was hoping to use it tomorrow, that is if the parts of the simulator doesn't wash up on the beach.
 
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gern_blanston said:
Might've just learned something. All the ones I ever flew had 195 stock, 210 or 220 modified.
Thus
or
thus.

They have 172's with 210HP? They must climb like a bottle rocket and carry anything you can shove in it, heck, that's just 25 HP less than my 182. Sweet!

Sorry to hear of another accident, everytime it takes something out of me.:(
 

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Yeah, there's some mod you can do to get 210 or 220 out of 'em, and they go pretty good. The stocker'll do 125+ knots all day long.
 
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gern_blanston said:
Yeah, there's some mod you can do to get 210 or 220 out of 'em, and they go pretty good. The stocker'll do 125+ knots all day long.
I bet the 220 could do 140 easy.
 

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gern_blanston said:
The 172XP has a 195 hp Continental IO-360 6-cylinder with a constant speed prop.
There is an STC available to up the HP to 210. There have been quite a few of them that have been modified. It's essentially the same engine/airframe combo as the C172 the Air Force used.

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