Placement in NJA aircraft?????

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Recent interviews at Netjets

Alright.....any dudes that just interviewed this weekend at Netjets....lets hear the results...who has received calls so far.....?
 

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Everyone has opinions about which fleets would be preferred. Many people just don't care - it's QOL and a paycheck that matters (fly to live vs. live to fly).

Clearly, the fleet you get can make a difference on your QOL because some fleets are far more active than others. The Citation X and XL/XLS fleets are the biggest and in most cases busiest for a reason - customers/owners love those airplanes (big demand). So, if you are placed on one of those two fleets, you will likely have somewhat busy tours. Plus, the Ctiation X has the range needed to do a lot of transcons - and you will probably get your share every tour. I hear other fleets are getting busier over time - both the Sovereign and G200 fleets are apparently getting busier. Meanwhile, the Ultra/Encore and Beechjet fleets don't fly as much and you will likely spend time at FBOs enjoying the TV if you are placed on those fleets. I have a friend on the Encore fleet and he flew maybe 200 hours last year (and he enjoyed the rest).

Personally, if I were hired and I had a choice, I'd strongly consider the Hawker 800XP-C. Great Pro Line 21 suite up front, nice ride from what I have heard and it doesn't do the constant transcons you would find on other fleets. Short to medium haul flights are the norm. Plus, not much baggage space on that airplane (which translates into fewer bags to load). Yeah, the Hawker 800XP-C would be one of my top choices with the G200 as a second choice (spacious up front)... Not many people hired onto the Falcon 2000 (otherwise that would be my top choice with the FA).
 
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Are you able to get up and strech during the flight? Use the restroom? If say you are on the X doing transcon flights? I have looked up there and it did look pretty tight.

Also wondering if you are able to read? I assume not since the customer and just look up and see you.
 

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Are you able to get up and strech during the flight? Use the restroom? If say you are on the X doing transcon flights? I have looked up there and it did look pretty tight.

Also wondering if you are able to read? I assume not since the customer and just look up and see you.

There is almost a choreographed dance that the pilots do on the X during a transcon.

Hours 1-2, fly.

Hours 2-5, take turns getting up to use the lav if nothing else than to walk somewhere while checking on the Owners as required by the FOM. Stretch legs, chat with Owners (if they want to), check on galley condition, return to seat. Wait 15 minutes since your flying partner went, then you go. Repeat as required/desired. Thank God for .92M.

Last hour, sit.
 

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Also wondering if you are able to read? I assume not since the customer and just look up and see you.
That's a "no" to reading. It is verboten.

You just have to hope that your partner is talkative and interesting or that it's a short flight. :D
 

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How often do you check on the client's? Or supposed to according to the FOM ?
 

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Verbally... every 15 minutes of a 9 hour flight to Rome. Isn't it AWESOME!!!!!
I guess I violate the FOM every 15 to 30 minutes. :rolleyes: I check on them, but I'm sure as hell not going to interrupt them that frequently. I look back, look for signs of life, and restart my stopwatch. :D
 

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I guess I violate the FOM every 15 to 30 minutes. :rolleyes: I check on them, but I'm sure as hell not going to interrupt them that frequently. I look back, look for signs of life, and restart my stopwatch. :D

I think that is the preferred method.
 

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Are you actually getting up and serving them food or drinks? Or just making sure all is well and restocking the bar if need be? It seems like they would get annoyed if I am back there every 15 minutes.
 

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Are you actually getting up and serving them food or drinks?
No; flight attendant services aren't part of our duties. I'll certainly ask if I can fix them anything before I climb into my seat before taxi, or if I happen to get up in-flight to use the lav or grab my crew meal, but not other than that, no.

We load the catering up in a big drawer prior to the flight, and make sure the refreshments are all stocked. After that, it's self-service. The regulations require me to be at my station unless I'm up for physiological needs. Occasionally I've had owners ask if they could get me anything while they were up at the galley, though. :D

If the owner wants a flight attendant, he can hire one to ride along, although I have yet to see that done on the Excel. Our Falcons, Boeing Business Jets, and Gulfstreams all normally have flight attendants on them.

Or just making sure all is well and restocking the bar if need be?
Yep, that's all. And the bar won't generally need restocking in-flight. I'll usually reload the bottled water from the supply closet if I'm up, but that's all; the rest can wait until after landing.


It seems like they would get annoyed if I am back there every 15 minutes.
I agree. The policy isn't to get up every 15 minutes, but to look back and verbally ask if everything's OK. That would still be irritating as hell, and I don't do it. I'll usually ask if everything's OK if they're up at the galley getting something, but not if they're busy doing something else (which is most of the time). Beyond that, I glance back and make sure they're doing OK. I can do that without disturbing them by yelling, "EVERYBODY OK BACK THERE???" :rolleyes:
 

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Just curious about some of the aircraft. Which plane or planes have the most cockpit room? I am refering to the ones that you could possibly get as a newhire. Not counting how much each actually works.
 

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Just curious about some of the aircraft. Which plane or planes have the most cockpit room? I am refering to the ones that you could possibly get as a newhire. Not counting how much each actually works.
G200 seems to have a decent amount of space:

http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=6068396&nseq=17

The Citation X has less space for the longer 5-6 hour transcon flights:

http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=5612114&nseq=11

The XL/XLS fleet is huge and you could find yourself in one of these (but fly shorter flights):

http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=6093587&nseq=27

If you have a fat a$$ and you need some extra room, I would suggest the G200 or the Falcon 2000 if you can get them...
 

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How are your dispatchers as far as keeping up with your flight and keeping you advised of bad weather?
 

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When they call to offer you a job they tell you what aircraft are available/you qualified for and what the class dates are.

Greetings..Can anyone post how long it took to get a call from the time the app was mailed in? Thanks in advance
 

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this time frame ( info gatherd from posts of FI ) seems to be ( and could change with TA passage) 3-7 months ...so who knows :)

my guess would be its going to get longer soon....plus not much action over the holidays
 

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They have been conducting interviews 6 days per week lately. That's good news for anyone waiting for an interview. Might keep the wait down to a reasonable time frame.
 

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Greetings..Can anyone post how long it took to get a call from the time the app was mailed in? Thanks in advance
All of the notifications came via email. It was approximately a five-six month wait before I received an interview slot with LAX listed as my first choice base. Best of luck to you.
 

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How are your dispatchers as far as keeping up with your flight and keeping you advised of bad weather?

I wouldn't expect ONLY the dispatcher to contact me if there is bad weather present.

In the morning, the meteorology Dept sends out a NAS synopsis that warns of MVFR, IFR, windy conditions, hurricances, TFRs (Bush Boundries), etc.

The Chief Pilot normaly sends out cautionary emails to the BlackBerry as weather conditions warrant.

AMCC and the Dispatcher take turns holding back the release of a flight for MEL/MX reasons.

That being said, the dispatchers are busy bees. I don't expect to talk to them unless I call them with an issue. They also take care of load planning.

Once in a while they call us to pass along info but usually they assume "we get it". There are MANY more tools available to us in an FBO than an airline terminal too. A WX computer with live radar and satellite feed with WX reports is available at even the Po-Dunkiest of FBOS.
 
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