Pinnacle To Get United Flying?

[JECKEL]

No source or anything real like that.

Supposedly, during a meeting this morning, it was announced that Pinnacle was going to be awarded 50-seat flying for United.

Good day!

 

[PCL_128]

Wouldn't surprise me. Park 100 real airplanes and then get a bunch of outsourced replacement jets. Sounds exactly like something Tilton would do.

www.glenntilton.com

 

[DoinTime]

No source or anything real like that.

Supposedly, during a meeting this morning, it was announced that Pinnacle was going to be awarded 50-seat flying for United.

Good day!

Was this an online Flight Info members meeting or a meeting of people who have a clue?

 

[Broke in CVG]

Was this an online Flight Info members meeting or a meeting of people who have a clue?

I wasn't there, but I believe he is referring to a meeting with the Comair President, as we like to call him, "the New Guy". So yes it was a real meeting and no, he doesn't really have a clue.

 

[JoeMerchant]

Wouldn't surprise me. Park 100 real airplanes do.

What defines a "real" airplane? It was that logic that got us into this mess in the first place......When the mainlines flew airplanes with less than 50 seats that had propellers.....were they "real" airplanes?

 

[silver02ex]

No source or anything real like that.

Supposedly, during a meeting this morning, it was announced that Pinnacle was going to be awarded 50-seat flying for United.

Good day!

Where would these airplane come from?

 

[PCL_128]

What defines a "real" airplane?

One that can actually turn a profit, Joey. You know, one with more than 76 seats.

 

[Metro752]

Pinnacle and AWAC when Mesa goes Kaput.

 

[Flyer1015]

R-idiculous for
U-nited to choose a
M-ismanaged regional airline with
O-verly incompetent leaders and
R-usty employee/management relations

 

[JoeMerchant]

One that can actually turn a profit, Joey. You know, one with more than 76 seats.

Skywest and ASA turn a profit......Should we only fly airliners with more than 76 seats? What magically happens with profitability with 76 seats? Are the "big" "real" airplanes that United flies "turning a profit"?

Keep it up PCL.....How are your "real" airplanes doing at Air Tran....are they "turning a profit".......Our little airplanes are.....

 

[PCL_128]

Skywest and ASA turn a profit......

You only turn a profit because of artificial cost-plus agreements that you have with mainline. Replacement jets are loss-leaders. They don't turn a profit on their own, but they feed mainline routes that can turn a profit.

Keep it up PCL.....How are your "real" airplanes doing at Air Tran....are they "turning a profit".......Our little airplanes are.....

Actually, yes, at these oil prices we are. Last statements made to investors were that we would be profitable at prices under $110/bbl.

 

[spudskier]

Totally makes sense that an airline in deep contract negotiations would get new flying... oh wait, it's United, it does make sense... enjoy it while it lasts

 

[777forever]

Man, Pinnacle is picking up all the new flying these days...

 

[Seaknight1]

I wasn't there, but I believe he is referring to a meeting with the Comair President, as we like to call him, "the New Guy". So yes it was a real meeting and no, he doesn't really have a clue.

I was at the "Team Summit" meeting an there was nothing said about Pinnacle and United. What was said, was that UA has been to the GO twice and like what they see; and there is an excellant chance that when things settle down that there would be an opportunity for 50 seat flying, but he's not sure how much or for how long. Of course I'll believe it when I see the first Comair a/c painted in UEX colors!

 

[JECKEL]

I was at the "Team Summit" meeting an there was nothing said about Pinnacle and United. What was said, was that UA has been to the GO twice and like what they see; and there is an excellant chance that when things settle down that there would be an opportunity for 50 seat flying, but he's not sure how much or for how long. Of course I'll believe it when I see the first Comair a/c painted in UEX colors!

If that is / was the case then I and my source stand corrected.

Thanks for the post.

Carry on about your business.

 

[Broke in CVG]

I was at the "Team Summit" meeting an there was nothing said about Pinnacle and United. What was said, was that UA has been to the GO twice and like what they see; and there is an excellant chance that when things settle down that there would be an opportunity for 50 seat flying, but he's not sure how much or for how long. Of course I'll believe it when I see the first Comair a/c painted in UEX colors!

I was at the GO twice. I went downstairs to the Cafeteria and I didn't like what I saw. I may have thrown up a little in my mouth; how much and for how long is yet to be determined. When things settle down in my stomach then I will believe that it was indeed edible.

 

[crj567]

Skywest and ASA turn a profit......Should we only fly airliners with more than 76 seats? What magically happens with profitability with 76 seats? Are the "big" "real" airplanes that United flies "turning a profit"?

Keep it up PCL.....How are your "real" airplanes doing at Air Tran....are they "turning a profit".......Our little airplanes are.....

Ohhhhhh,

SNAP!!!!

-Looks like he verybally kicked you right in the pee-pee!


Go JOE!

-Give PCL a Norris-style beat-down!

 

[SpauldingSmails]

R-idiculous for
U-nited to choose a
M-ismanaged regional airline with
O-verly incompetent leaders and
R-usty employee/management relations

Why wouldn't United chose a regional most like itself?

 

[relief tube]

Skywest and ASA turn a profit......Should we only fly airliners with more than 76 seats? What magically happens with profitability with 76 seats? Are the "big" "real" airplanes that United flies "turning a profit"?
.......Our little airplanes are.....

Uhhh....wow. Can somebody get this guy a clue, and less hairgel?

Regional economics 101- Only reason any regionals make money is because they're paid per flight, with no overhead like fuel costs. Just about all regionals turn a profit each qtr- even the horribly managed ones.

50 seat jets are dead for future growth. Turnboprops and anything more than 70 seats are the only things that make mainlines can loose minimal money on.

 

[crj567]

Uhhh....wow. Can somebody get this guy a clue, and less hairgel?

Regional economics 101- Only reason any regionals make money is because they're paid per flight, with no overhead like fuel costs. Just about all regionals turn a profit each qtr- even the horribly managed ones.

50 seat jets are dead for future growth. Turnboprops and anything more than 70 seats are the only things that make mainlines can loose minimal money on.

Captain "Loose"

-Hey, look-your belt is "loose!"
-Got any "loose" change?

-I am about to "loose" my mind if 95% of you goombahs can't figure out the difference between "lose" and "loose."

-I'M GONNA "LOOSE" IT!!!!!!!!!

 

[ohplease!]

Uhhh....wow. Can somebody get this guy a clue, and less hairgel?

Regional economics 101- Only reason any regionals make money is because they're paid per flight, with no overhead like fuel costs. Just about all regionals turn a profit each qtr- even the horribly managed ones.

50 seat jets are dead for future growth. Turnboprops and anything more than 70 seats are the only things that make mainlines can loose minimal money on.

proof POSITIVE that regionals with their itty bitty jets don't lose money for the majors......THEY STILL USE THEM ANNNNDDDD THEY'RE USING MMMOOOORRRREEEE OF THEM......

If they were such a huge drain on the majors, the majors would have dropped them LONG ago.

SO! STFU already.

oh yeah BTW, nice little tag line about the age 60 thing. I'll try to remember to adjust my lifestyle so the airlines won't furlough.....yep. that should work

 

[front9]

Wouldn't surprise me. Park 100 real airplanes and then get a bunch of outsourced replacement PILOTS WHO ARE WILLING TO PAY TO FLY TURBOPROPS. Sounds exactly like something pcl_128 would do.



Is the B1900 a "real" airplane???
:cartman: - Cartman says, "Never forget where you come from"

 

[contrail67]

No source or anything real like that.

Supposedly, during a meeting this morning, it was announced that Pinnacle was going to be awarded 50-seat flying for United.

Good day!

If you do not have a source...don't post it.

 

[Tarzan]

If you do not have a source...don't post it.

Watcha mean? It is ridiculous to even make such comment as yours as we all know FlightInfo is for that exactly. :beer:

I heard from a guy in the crew room that the ASA were not going to get their new new crew room. It would instead be used by Pinnacle crews when they come into ATL.

 

[777forever]

Watcha mean? It is ridiculous to even make such comment as yours as we all know FlightInfo is for that exactly. :beer:

I heard from a guy in the crew room that the ASA were not going to get their new new crew room. It would instead be used by Pinnacle crews when they come into ATL.

I hope not. Who owns the gates on C again?

 

[DoinTime]

I hope not. Who owns the gates on C again?

We did just secure a lease on a new crew room on the C concourse. Should be moving in soon.

 

[JoeMerchant]

We did just secure a lease on a new crew room on the C concourse. Should be moving in soon.

.....make sure you get your tetnis shots before you move in....

 

[JECKEL]

If you do not have a source...don't post it.

My source was someone at the Comair Summit meeting.

I didn't question their reliability ... I guess I should have.

 

[JoeMerchant]

Uhhh....wow. Can somebody get this guy a clue, and less hairgel?

....sorry....no hair gel here and no SJS here either...

Regional economics 101- Only reason any regionals make money is because they're paid per flight, with no overhead like fuel costs. Just about all regionals turn a profit each qtr- even the horribly managed ones.

50 seat jets are dead for future growth. Turnboprops and anything more than 70 seats are the only things that make mainlines can loose minimal money on.

Thanks for the econ lesson junior.....did you read PCL's post and my response? The fact is we make money while most "real" airplanes don't.....The majors need feed just as much as the regionals do....doesn't make any one of us more "real" than the other.....Little D!CK people like PCL want to equate "real" airplanes with seating capacity....That is why we are in the trouble we are in.....

Using your logic, 69 seats loses money,while 70 seats makes money....can you explain that one....I didn't take "regional airlines 101"......Sounds like a class that was taught by the ATA and ALPA......

 

[JoeMerchant]

You only turn a profit because of artificial cost-plus agreements that you have with mainline. Replacement jets are loss-leaders. They don't turn a profit on their own, but they feed mainline routes that can turn a profit.

The mainline needs the feed.....and we turn a profit....The legacy global carriers need the feed....The fact is we make a profit, while many "real" airplanes lose money......Maybe we should just talk about "airplanes"......The "real" part is idiotic....but I expect that from you......The 1900 you paid to sit in the right seat of was a "real" airplane...too bad you aren't a "real" pilot......