Pinnacle purchases 15 Q400

[coolyokeluke]

It was a regional airline, with regional airline pay and work rules. It was no better or no worse than any of the other regionals out there.

At the 121 "regional" I work at we have former Pinnacle guys onboard. They would strongly disagree with your assertion.

 

[Justino2]

o BOY since this makes pilot upset in 9E lets just not fly anymore. I am going to get a job at Arbys. C yah!

 

[rhino3040]

I'm enjoyong every second of this!!! I guess time will tell on who is going to fly these brand spankin' new airplanes.









Op

 

[IrishjbPilot]

My bet is on colgan. I think pcl mgmt will find a loop hole and it will all be over.

 

[redflyer65]

Turbo,

You crack me up! 114/hr! I think I still have Coke coming out of my nose.

Phil and Co will tell Colgan pilots what they get. I bet it is less than half that. Any wagers?

Turbo, I'm just being sarcastic. I know you know how it will play out.

Cheers.

 

[Lear70]

Turbo,

You crack me up! 114/hr! I think I still have Coke coming out of my nose.

Phil and Co will tell Colgan pilots what they get. I bet it is less than half that. Any wagers?

Turbo, I'm just being sarcastic. I know you know how it will play out.

Cheers.

Half?

I bet it's close to 1/3 at around low $40's an hour for the CA's.

 

[CA1900]

They'll call it a "blended rate." As in, when you see the rate they're going to pay you, you're gonna go out and get blended! :beer:

 

[Ridgeback]

I wonder if the Q400 will have it's own 410 club? Also I wonder if Fo's and Captians can switch seats?

 

[IrishjbPilot]

wow......incoming!!

 

[Flyer1015]

Lets leave Ridgeback alone, don't bite the bait!

He has 100,000 hours in Microsoft Flight Simulator 2002, and frankly, he's late for his JFK-LHR flight in an A380...

 

[Ridgeback]

How would someone who has all his time in MS flightsim know about the 410 club.

PS I measure my MS sim safety by "flight completion rate" ring a bell

 

[Flyer1015]

How would someone who has all his time in MS flightsim know about the 410 club.

Because the "410" club has been mentioned here many times before. It was even mentioned in the Human Factors report released by the NTSB for this PNCL accident.

PS I measure my MS sim safety by "flight completion rate" ring a bell

You're a troll. Go back to Flight Simulator 2002, and don't forget to use the slew mode when your approach becomes extremely unstabilized on final.

 

[Ridgeback]

I prefer Captain Troll, my A380 is waiting

 

[Flyer1015]

I prefer Captain Troll, my A380 is waiting

Mods, is that enough to get this guy banned? Admitting to trolling and continuing to troll everywhere he posts... won't be too long before your screenname turns RED.

 

[Lear70]

There's only two mods right now, they're a bit swamped since Longhorn resigned his moderator status.

Best thing you could do is ignore him. If enough people do, he'll eventually find something better to do with his time.

Speaking of which, I'm gonna go get "blended".

 

[Dirty Sanchez]

There WILL be a lawsuit filed immediately (I'm sure ALPA was prepared for it). Part of my guess of why the early announcement is multi-part, some for stock prices, some of it likely to see how the lawsuit from ALPA washes out.

What you won't see is probably some of the union guys from PCL posting on here. Now that it's a full-blown law suit they'll likely be told not to discuss it, even anonymously.

In other words, the 9E pilots will have no idea WTF is going on because of some ALPA "hush-hush" lawsuit. I think the reason we will not hear anything is because the union has no idea what to do at this point.

Was this (i.e. 9E buying Colgan) not considered when the scope was integrated into the last contract? I thought that was the sole purpose. I don't see how it takes a month for ALPA legal to decipher something they should have reviewed years ago.

So now 9E pilots will have no information from the union or the company...

Good times!!!

 

[DTWFO]

In other words, the 9E pilots will have no idea WTF is going on because of some ALPA "hush-hush" lawsuit. I think the reason we will not hear anything is because the union has no idea what to do at this point.

Was this (i.e. 9E buying Colgan) not considered when the scope was integrated into the last contract? I thought that was the sole purpose. I don't see how it takes a month for ALPA legal to decipher something they should have reviewed years ago.

So now 9E pilots will have no information from the union or the company...

Good times!!!

You hit the nail on the head.....I'm getting sick of this "we're evaluating things and we'll get back with you later" line. More of the same.

 

[Lear70]

In other words, the 9E pilots will have no idea WTF is going on because of some ALPA "hush-hush" lawsuit. I think the reason we will not hear anything is because the union has no idea what to do at this point.

Was this (i.e. 9E buying Colgan) not considered when the scope was integrated into the last contract? I thought that was the sole purpose. I don't see how it takes a month for ALPA legal to decipher something they should have reviewed years ago.

So now 9E pilots will have no information from the union or the company...

Good times!!!

Well, that's life under Wakefield for ya'. I got SO frustrated trying to work Communications with "We can't tell them that yet", or "We can't come right out and say that", keep-it-close-to-the-vest tactics.

I'd bet you a c-note that ALPA legal was absolutely ready for this and had planned for it from the day the first announcement about Colgan was made.

You'll probably get a blast email that says something to the effect of "We had hoped the company would not attempt this but, with the Company's history, we were prepared for it and have filed a suit in ____ Superior Court to uphold our RIGHTS under the Scope provision that Pinnacle management signed."

After that you won't hear squat until it's over. POSSIBLY dates for hearings and such, but most likely not.

Sucks, I know...

 

[Dirty Sanchez]

Well, that's life under Wakefield for ya'. I got SO frustrated trying to work Communications with "We can't tell them that yet", or "We can't come right out and say that", keep-it-close-to-the-vest tactics.

I'd bet you a c-note that ALPA legal was absolutely ready for this and had planned for it from the day the first announcement about Colgan was made.

You'll probably get a blast email that says something to the effect of "We had hoped the company would not attempt this but, with the Company's history, we were prepared for it and have filed a suit in ____ Superior Court to uphold our RIGHTS under the Scope provision that Pinnacle management signed."

After that you won't hear squat until it's over. POSSIBLY dates for hearings and such, but most likely not.

Sucks, I know...

The result of this lawsuit and retro pay...2 things I will never see before I leave this miserable place (and it will be AT LEAST a year).

 

[redflyer65]

Lear, your right. Phil can just keep the Saab rates for the Q400. No problem.