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fowingman said:
Very true. But what should an xj pilot do? Not bid a crj 200 spot despite having the seniority to hold it? Really?
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Oh, no, nothing that you can do. Nor can we. It's binding arbitration. There are two options at this point. One, we pull a US Air and kick out ALPA and not accept the arbitration award. But a majority of pilots (50%+) would have to vote yes to that. Given that a majority of Colgan, a pretty decent size of Mesaba, and a little bit of Pinnacle made out well in this award, you'll never get enough votes.

The second option is to make yourself heard through your feet. That is my goal. To get the **** outta here. I would love to stay and get the eventual TPIC time, but with the way things are now, pre-merger Pinnacle FOs are the next Comair FOs. I have no interest in spending the better part of a decade in the right seat of Pinnacle. The only thing that would change that is more aircraft, but right now, Delta being scoped at its max for larger RJs, I don't see much opportunity for Pinnacle. Not to mention, poor Menke is already busy enough trying to fix/correct this merger mess.
 
I see your point with regard to being in a shi..y position, not enough tpic and now sent back to the right seat for who knows how long. It's a tough position to not be pissed about it. The Mesaba folks are good peeps, trust me. Most of them are just good guys, the. Type that want to make money avoid trouble. With the company, most of the the xj. pilots don't have il will towards mgmt, that's where the difference in pilot groups will be. Former 9e mgmt wasn't the best group of people. If u with original xj pilotsn you will enjoy the time.
 
No, I just wouldn't categorize JetBlue as a "Major". It's far from a Major Airline. I think that the Major's should go the other way with scope.
 
TailHeavy said:
No, I just wouldn't categorize JetBlue as a "Major". It's far from a Major Airline. I think that the Major's should go the other way with scope.
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Oh, I must have misinterpreted your post then. To me it reads that you think he should go back to flying his E190, which means jetBlue is a regional or national, not a major (because a major wouldn't fly an aircraft like that). My mistake.
 
TailHeavy said:
No, I just wouldn't categorize JetBlue as a "Major". It's far from a Major Airline. I think that the Major's should go the other way with scope.
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Sure they didn't turn you down...

Now, why aren't they a major airline? Is it because they don't have hundreds of outsourced RJ's flying around with subcontract cheap labor? Is it because they haven't furloughed pilots? Is it because they haven't filed bankruptcy? Is it because their market share is growing? Is it because they have a strong balance sheet and GROWTH aircraft on order (100+).

Maybe JetBlue should lay off some pilots, file bankruptcy and contract republic to fly RJ's, then, then... then, we can be a "major".

Boy, I sure wish I worked for a "major" airline...

Enjoy Pinnacle.
 
Smarta$$ said:
Sure they didn't turn you down...

Now, why aren't they a major airline? Is it because they don't have hundreds of outsourced RJ's flying around with subcontract cheap labor? Is it because they haven't furloughed pilots? Is it because they haven't filed bankruptcy? Is it because their market share is growing? Is it because they have a strong balance sheet and GROWTH aircraft on order (100+).

Maybe JetBlue should lay off some pilots, file bankruptcy and contract republic to fly RJ's, then, then... then, we can be a "major".

Boy, I sure wish I worked for a "major" airline...

Enjoy Pinnacle.
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Enjoy pinnacle? Easy man. You just left.
 
bri5150 said:
Oh, I must have misinterpreted your post then. To me it reads that you think he should go back to flying his E190, which means jetBlue is a regional or national, not a major (because a major wouldn't fly an aircraft like that). My mistake.
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That's garbage. At least US Air operates their own E190s on mainline. That's how it should be. Actually, Air Canada has it best. The 50 seat RJs and a handful of CRJ-700/900s are all Air Canada Jazz, but all the E Jets (Embraer 170, 175, 190, 195) are at mainline Air Canada. Thats how it should be here, but it isn't.
 
Flyer1015 said:
That's garbage. At least US Air operates their own E190s on mainline. That's how it should be. Actually, Air Canada has it best. The 50 seat RJs and a handful of CRJ-700/900s are all Air Canada Jazz, but all the E Jets (Embraer 170, 175, 190, 195) are at mainline Air Canada. Thats how it should be here, but it isn't.
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Jazz elected to unify all lists together and stop the regional whipsaw.
 

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