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The_Skids

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I have heard a rumor that they are taking guys that are qualified, putting them through training, and then upgrading them to captain right after FO training. Is this true...or is it just a rumor?

How long is one on reserve these days?

What is the callout time on reserve and are there different types of reserve?

Can you get Memphis out of training?

Are you on probation for any amount of time?

Do you have any info on the new contract, if so, will it be an improvement?

Any other work rules that are good or bad that would affect QOL?
 

spg2bmd

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Yes!!! and they are giving free corvettes to the first 50 applicants.
 

another cfii

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I have heard a rumor that they are taking guys that are qualified, putting them through training, and then upgrading them to captain right after FO training. Is this true...or is it just a rumor?

How long is one on reserve these days?

What is the callout time on reserve and are there different types of reserve?

Can you get Memphis out of training?

Are you on probation for any amount of time?

Do you have any info on the new contract, if so, will it be an improvement?

Any other work rules that are good or bad that would affect QOL?
To answer your questions:

1) Street captain rumor is always around the corner. We have not hire a street captain for over 2 years, and we are still upgrading eligible FOs. With that said, mgmt wants to start looking into other "options" when all available eligible FO are gone. The answer is no.

2) FO Reserve depends largely on where you're based. MEM and DTW is much shorter than MSP, that i can tell you. But the exact time frame, I do not know.

3) We have 2 types of reserve: Airport reserve, home reserve. We used to have 2 shifts in airport reserve, now there's only the night home reserve that starts approx. from 7pm till last flight departs around 11pm or so. Home reserve has 2 shifts, AM & PM. AM shift starts from around 5am till 5pm, and PM shift starts from 10am till 10pm. Airport reserve needs to be in the confines of the airport, Home reserve callout is 90 minutes from the time you're notified by scheduling.

4) MEM is available for all newhire FO.

5) Probation period is 1 year. It begins from the time you start your checkride date, which is your hire date.

6) Contract negotiations has been picking up some steam lately. As far as the rumors go, the only sections that needs TA are Pay and Scope. Looks like mgmt is finally ready to play ball with us. People here are keeping a very close watch with this contract, as it is long overdue, and morale is pretty low. It will be improvements definitely. Personally, I feel our pilot group has given up much in the past few years to make Pinnacle what it is right now, and it is time for the company to show their mutual respect, with this CBA.

7) I can't really think of any good work rules that improve our QOL lately, to be honest, that's why we are looking forward to a new contract.
 

WildBlue

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Only part of the previous post that is incorrect is the probationary period. You are on probation for 365 days from your first day of class, not your checkride.
 

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Only part of the previous post that is incorrect is the probationary period. You are on probation for 365 days from your first day of class, not your checkride.
Thank you for correcting me... It's been while since I was on probation, as you can probably tell:)
 

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I was offered "the deal" a year ago by someone who could make it happen. Wouldn't guarantee it, so I didn't take it.
 

DoinTime

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I was offered "the deal" a year ago by someone who could make it happen. Wouldn't guarantee it, so I didn't take it.

If you would have taken it you would have gotten screwed. Nobody can circumvent seniority at PCL. Its all in the timing and the timing is right for a qualified new hire to get the upgrade shortly out of new hire class right now.
 

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FO reserve

sadly, the reserve in msp is now shorter than dtw and mem. due to the tdy this month i went from having a line to a worse seniority number and once again have a reserve line while some guys from my class already have a line in msp.
 

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Pinnacle here I come. Hey "SMARTA$$," could you get me a cup of coffee with 2 creams and 2 equals. Thanks.
We had to remove the extra creams and sugars to balance out the weight up front of the RJ so that we could take J/S'ers. Don't even try to bring it in your bag because security will take it out and the gate agent is ready to do a strip search with a weight scale to make sure every passenger weighs @ 189 lbs average! Even that Fat F Ck in the back with the extension belt weighs 189.

Holy Crap, I saw a FO at Mesaba that needed an extension belt to sit up front in the Saab!
 

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When do you get your seniority number...after your checkride or when you start class?
 

bertengineer

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When do you get your seniority number...after your checkride or when you start class?
You get your employee number, based on age in your class, and the seniority number is based on when you finish your checkride in the sim.
 

DoinTime

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You get your employee number, based on age in your class, and the seniority number is based on when you finish your checkride in the sim.
Not correct. Your seniority number is set on the first day of class and is sorted by age with the oldest pilots being senior.
 

ataopsdave

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That is correct...the only thing that comes after the checkride is your longevity starts
 
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