Pilot Caught With Loaded Handgun at Calgary Airport

[ALGFLYR]

FYI, it was a Airways FA that got busted with the gun in Europe not a Pilot.

I stand corrected. I do remember that now...

Let's just hope this incident doesn't make them start changing things for the worse...

 

[wms]

The normal procedure for FFDO crew upon entry to Canada is to inform CBSA that he/she is an FFDO and CBSA provide a lock box for the guns while the FFDO is on layover and then it is given back to the FFDO when the crew member is returning to the aircraft.

FFDOs carry to Canada now? Cool.

 

[NEDude]

The U.S.'s Transportation Security Administration said Thursday White used his Known Crew Member status to bypass security at Salt Lake International Airport.

Yet another threat to KCM...

It is true we on this forum may not know all the facts. But I am willing to bet a large sum of money this is another case of a "responsible" gun owner who forgot where he keeps his loaded handgun, or a guy who decided to carry it around with him secretly hoping he would have a chance to play hero and thinking he could use KCM to avoid being caught with it.

 

[mesaserf]

Guys have got to stop using the same fricking bag at the range that they use for their flight kit.

Just don't do it...

 

[ALGFLYR]

Guys have got to stop using the same fricking bag at the range that they use for their flight kit.

Just don't do it...

But it's cool to have a CREW tag at the range...

 

[IAHERJ]

What's NOT COOL is a non union pilot putting into jeopardy the KCM program funded in part by ALPA. It is frustrating enough that I have to get in line behind a bunch of FA's who are riding our coat tails.....

 

[PBRstreetgang]

What's NOT COOL is a non union pilot putting into jeopardy the KCM program funded in part by ALPA. It is frustrating enough that I have to get in line behind a bunch of FA's who are riding our coat tails.....

Deep breath, brush sand out our your mangina, a baby wipe with aloe will help with the chafing too.
There now don't you feel better?

 

[PBRstreetgang]

What's NOT COOL is a non union pilot putting into jeopardy the KCM program funded in part by ALPA. It is frustrating enough that I have to get in line behind a bunch of FA's who are riding our coat tails.....

Don't worry, pretty sure he will be unemployed soon enough.

 

[IAHERJ]

Deep breath, brush sand out our your mangina, a baby wipe with aloe will help with the chafing too.
There now don't you feel better?

Thanks, the aloe did the trick!

 

[jetwash]

Don't worry, pretty sure he will be unemployed soon enough.

Being banned from Canada for gun charges kind of puts a limit on your flight scheduling as well as possibly having your air side access denied for carrying a weapon aboard an aircraft for which you did not have authorization to do so.

 

[IBNAV8R]

But it's cool to have a CREW tag at the range...

Then put a crew tag on your range bag. NEVER put your range 'anything' in your crew bag.

 

[waveflyer]

Hey, I'm pro gun. But this is why there's always a political call for more control over guns.
This is not just a bonehead mistake. You brought a loaded gun into a foreign country using Kcm

This is a mistake you can't make
I mean really dumb.
Just as Kcm is getting more widespread

So dumb

 

[SSDD]

You guys just like to whine! Why are you in such a hurry to give up KCM?

This guy may lose KCM and/or his job. Maybe even SkyWest will lose KCM, but the whole industry? That's not going to happen

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Being banned from Canada for gun charges kind of puts a limit on your flight scheduling as well as possibly having your air side access denied for carrying a weapon aboard an aircraft for which you did not have authorization to do so.

When Canada finishes with him, the TSA/FBI will have their fun time, then the local airport authorities will get to stand in line for their turn. This situation will be on deck for a long time. And when every government agency with a dog in this fight has chewed to their hearts content, SKYW will have a shot at what's left.
My bet is, he will never hold a security sensitive job again. His pelt will be displayed on many walls.

 

[SWA Bubba]

Hey, I'm pro gun. But this is why there's always a political call for more control over guns.
This is not just a bonehead mistake. You brought a loaded gun into a foreign country using Kcm

This is a mistake you can't make
I mean really dumb.
Just as Kcm is getting more widespread

So dumb

First of all, Wave, when you say you're "pro gun," you really don't mean you're pro gun the way other pilots are pro gun. Right?

Also, we don't really know all the facts yet. Something to consider is that the S&W Bodyguard .380 is, without question, a ladies' gun. No self-respecting man over 5' tall and with actual man-sized hands would be caught dead (or in Canada!) in possession of such a weapon. Haven't any of you guys ever seen one of these baby guns? So we may have to consider that an angry wife/girlfriend found out about the other wife/girlfriend, and decided to teach a certain pilot a valuable lesson. Know what I mean?

Bubba

 

[waveflyer]

That's actually a good point

And no bubba

If I were pro gun like other pilots I'd have a big ole belly and aggressively tell you how I'd shoot a guy right between the eyes from 50 yards if I came across a mall shooter.
(All without doing any work or preparation for that situation)

I also don't give a damn if I register my guns-
And don't mind background checks-
Call me crazy...

 

[densoo]

You guys just like to whine! Why are you in such a hurry to give up KCM?

This guy may lose KCM and/or his job. Maybe even SkyWest will lose KCM, but the whole industry? That's not going to happen

Sounds about right. I see them increasing the number of random bag checks for those going through KCM as a measured response. A hastle, but better than throwing the whole thing out. I think local TSAs and airport authorities see the advantage of KCM and don't want to go back a busload of crew members jumping the first class/handicapped line every 30 minutes. Pisses off passengers and requires another TSA agent to cover the magnetic screener.

 

[scoreboardII]

1800 guns confiscated by TSA last year at checkpoints.

This guy gets charged trying to bring one out of Canada? Sounds like the Mounted POlice who are not mounted need to explain why he made it into Canada with a gun.

 

[wms]

Canada hates handguns, even for LE. I saw TSA find a lady's gun at iad, they just took her name and told her to put it back in her car. Every place is different.

 

[Ops check good]

What's NOT COOL is a non union pilot putting into jeopardy the KCM program funded in part by ALPA. It is frustrating enough that I have to get in line behind a bunch of FA's who are riding our coat tails.....

get over yourself