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Pilot busted for dropping bag of flour out of airplane near Phoenix

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Airdrop scare leads to recreation area evacuation
By Nick Martin, Tribune

Phoenix, AZ
Sheriff’s officials scrambled to evacuate part of the Tonto National Forest and put the U.S. Department of Homeland Security on alert Sunday after an airplane dropped bags of white powder near the Verde River.
"In the case that this was a chemical or biological attack, everyone out there would have been exposed," Maricopa County sheriff’s Sgt. Travis Anglin said.

The river also supplies water to the Valley.

But it wasn’t an attack. A man with access to an airplane had dropped flour bombs on his friends as a prank while they played paintball at Needle Rock recreation area east of Cave Creek, Anglin said.

Forest rangers saw the drop about noon. Sheriff’s officials evacuated the area and started checking the powder. About three hours later, the paintball players explained about their friend, who had flown out of Deer Valley Airport, Anglin said.

The man, whose identity was not released, could face charges, such as flying too low and dropping objects out of a plane, Anglin said.

The three-hour scare did test authorities. "It was kind of a dress rehearsal for terrorist activities," Anglin said.

One issue was an apparent miscommunication between the sheriff’s office and Salt River Project, which manages the Valley’s incoming water supply. SRP spokesman Scott Harelson said the company was not notified by sheriff’s, forest or federal officials until about two hours into the scare and only found out about the incident when the Tribune called for comment.

But Anglin said the sheriff’s office notified SRP while the scare was happening. He did not know, however, who contacted whom and said SRP may have called the sheriff’s office.
 
Yeah, terrorists are going to launch a chemical attack on Tonto National Forest!

Alarmist schmucks...
 
EagleRJ said:
Alarmist schmucks...

I heard a quote from a Maricopa County Sheriff's Deputy on a local radio station on Sunday.

I'll have to paraphrase but he said that "you can't just go around dropping stuff in the desert." and "they'll be "arrested" for littering/dumping and we're also exploring to see what federal laws that they might have violated."

:rolleyes:

Cripes!...can't just drop stuff in the freeking desert? What are they gonna hit, a gila monster? Perhaps a protected breed of cactus? Why in the hell would terrorists drop a sealed bag of antrax out of an airplane window over a desolate area when there are 3.5 million people within a 20 minute flight?

The sheriff's office should be a little more concerned about the DEAD BODIES and burned-out stolen cars being dumped in the dessert as opposed to trying to conduct a witch hunt over something that doesn't amount to anything more than simple littering...if that.

I hate to criticize law enforcement, but what a bunch of maroons.
 
I am pretty green when it comes to environmental matters, but is it even littering if its flour? As in, ground up wheat...organic matter. How about scraping up some rabbit sh!t from the desert floor and 'dropping' those droppings. Gonna call that littering?
 
You are right--It IS legal to drop objects if care is taken not to induce damge on persons or objects on the ground. I guess they may get him for littering--atleast he didn't molest the wildlife!
 
Dr Pokenhiemer said:
...atleast he didn't molest the wildlife!

I decided to quote a movie and abbreviated curse words, so now I'm banned for a day.

-mini
 
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minitour said:
I decided to quote a movie and abbreviated curse words, so now I'm banned for a day.

-mini

HA HA HA....I've finally figured out why some screen names are Red vs Blue. See you tomorrow Mini.

Now, as far as these banishments go, are they like MEL Items? Will Mini be back in 24 hours from time of banishment, or will he have to wait until midnight tomorrow? :)
 
I heard this on the radio this morning. A pilot of a small airplane was arrested for dropping a bag of flour on some people northeast of Phoenix yesterday, just wondering if anyone heard anything about this.
 
Already on the board.

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Unless you’re Julia Child… why would you want to have FLOUR in your plane? I think it was someone getting rid of some nose candy or disposing of Grandpa’s ashes.

Maybe even too high and confused thus snorting Grandpa’s ashes and getting rid of some nose candy! :-)
 
I heard the pilot will be charged with illegal dumping. Such a friggin joke. Apparently people were participating in a paintball event and friends thought it would be funny to bomb them with flour. Of course the news latched on to the "White Powder" aspect of the story. Could someone please kill someone with a different color powder so we can move on.
 
TDTURBO said:
Guess it beats dropping bowling balls, then again, depends on the neighborhood.
Do you guys remember the episode on the old TV series WKRP in Cinncinati where they had the bright idea of dropping live turkeys only to find out too late that domesticated turkeys can't fly? :D

Actually, the best stuff to throw out of an airplane are rolls of toilet paper - it's a hoot trying to cut it up on the way down. (Did I really say that?)

'Sled
 
man.. i dropped a shiatloads of stuff from aircraft. Of course in concordance with 91.15 ;)


How does one prove adequate precautions were taken? I mean comon..... flour doesn't hurt anyone? Is a call to local authorities required to notify them you are going to drop something? Seems stupid that they try to nail him for that. Even the altitude he was flying at (supposedly "to low") shouldn't get him into trouble because he obviously was safe, since nothing happened. I doubt there were any structures in those woods.


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Actually, the best stuff to throw out of an airplane are rolls of toilet paper - it's a hoot trying to cut it up on the way down. (Did I really say that?)

:D (i say no more) :D
 
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Lead Sled said:
It does if it's still in the 5 pound bags.
You must be a college student...a 1 pound bag and a 5 pound bag will fall at the same speed! :D

Just kidding...with ya lead sled, I know what ya meant.

On a side note, the wife and I showed up at the drop zone many years ago one sunday and the jumpers were doing their annual cabbage toss. With permission from the airport of course.

They had painted a circle at the north end of runway 36 (grass strip) and they were taking 3 club memebers up at time and letting them drop a cabbage at the target.

Of course, we were all down there standing in the safest place to watch, the circle. The plane would come by, out would come a cabbage and it would land in the corn field someplace. Some were landing on the runway.

Needless to say, any vehicle that was parked on 36 automatically drew the cabbage towards it. It was almost like a magical magnetic force.

So one jumper almost got his dodge pickup drilled, so he moved it. Although to tell you the truth, it appeared to be a safe distance away to begin with. Then the golf cart almost got drilled. They moved that.

Then one of our jump pilot/skydivers shows up in his Sheriff's Department GMC Blazer 4x4 and parks 50 feet away from the circle. He had a rookie partner with him and I was a little nervous for them, so I went over and tried to convice the SGT to "move along now".

He didn't think there was going to be a problem and wanted to stay and watch the cabbage come down. So here comes the 182 and the cabbage is released. All indications were that it was going through the roof of the Blazer...there were about 10 or 15 of us standing by the Blazer and we all could tell by the fact that the cabbage appeared to not move, that it was headed our way.

The two cops realize this and jump in the truck, put it in reverse and floor it. Since the truck was on sod, it just stayed still and the only thing moving was the tire spinning out throwing sod everywhere. Everybody else ran away from the squad for their lives.

The Blazer is still spinning and not moving, when all the sudden... "Whummmmmp!" It burned in right next to the rear wheel, not more than three feet away from the spinning rear wheel. This was actually caught on tape.

The SGT backed up and left...and I'm sure him and Deputy Poopy pants went home and cleaned out their drawers.
 
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