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CX880 said:
I never understood these avia degree preferences. It really has nothing to do with the job. Your scrap book of CRJ and ERJ-175 presentations at Harvard of the skies, goes a long way in DAsh8 ground school... They should put they prefer people that have experience applying for food stamps and are able to get a good night sleep in the back of a plane or on a couch so as to be rested for the 5am show.
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Maybe the big names like UND or ERAU have slipped since they've been trying to just pump out crj pilots, but the aviation degree is by no means worthless, especially if it came from a school that seemed to produce a more well-rounded pilot, like some of the small colleges that have great aviation programs that don't try to just produce an rj fo...
"Aviation degree has nothing to do with the job" (of an airline pilot)? Really?
 
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se1776 said:
Anyone wants to fly those old piece of ----- Dash 8? send your resume to jurassic park.

I mean Piedmont Airlines....
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I doubt I am alone on this, but basically since day one of commercial flying I have flown nothing but old junk. My hours in the profile are about up to date. Old cessna's, seneca's, duchess, beech 1900's, saab's, MD80's......all other people's old discarded junk. Many cargo pilot's fly nothing but old junk too. I enjoyed flying them all. So many people get to fly the modern RJ's, but not all. I think most of the Airbus at USAir and United are pretty old now too.
 
BRA said:
I doubt I am alone on this, but basically since day one of commercial flying I have flown nothing but old junk. My hours in the profile are about up to date. Old cessna's, seneca's, duchess, beech 1900's, saab's, MD80's......all other people's old discarded junk. Many cargo pilot's fly nothing but old junk too. I enjoyed flying them all. So many people get to fly the modern RJ's, but not all. I think most of the Airbus at USAir and United are pretty old now too.
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Yea the airbuses are old, most of the UA and US airbuses still fly on Windows 98.
 
GlenQ said:
but the aviation degree is by no means worthless,
"Aviation degree has nothing to do with the job" (of an airline pilot)? Really?
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Yea it is worthless if you're trying to be a pilot. You don't need an avia degree to put the gear up or write up a broken plane.
 
WSurf said:
Funny, almost everyone I have ever ran into. They can have 4 different Type rating. Jets, big or small. Each one will say the Dash 8 was there favorite plane to fly.
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Hands down. If flying a Dash paid what flying a Boeing paid, I'd fly it in a second. Boeing's easier to fly too.
NYB
 
GlenQ said:
Maybe the big names like UND or ERAU have slipped since they've been trying to just pump out crj pilots, but the aviation degree is by no means worthless, especially if it came from a school that seemed to produce a more well-rounded pilot, like some of the small colleges that have great aviation programs that don't try to just produce an rj fo...
"Aviation degree has nothing to do with the job" (of an airline pilot)? Really?
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In my experience from 2000-2007, ERAU in DAB has done just that. Pumping out RJ pilots who only know how to fly within a small well defined "box", with no experience outside of that box. I felt like I learned a lot of information that didn't really help when I got my first job. But then again, I don't fly an RJ so maybe I'd be super at it.
 
I have yet to figure out why airlines place so much emphasis on an aviation type degree. I think it makes you a worse pilot actually. As soon as a captain tells me he went to ERAU I prepare for the worst. That degree is worthless if you lose your medical at some point. You could move to the management side of the airlines but that's about it or run an FBO.

I have a business degree which is pretty useless working in management for the airlines because an airline seems to be the most poorly run business on the planet next to the United States. It amazes me the decisions that the various airlines out there make from a business standpoint. Alot of them make zero sense. But what do I know.
 
joepilot29 said:
I have yet to figure out why airlines place so much emphasis on an aviation type degree. I think it makes you a worse pilot actually. As soon as a captain tells me he went to ERAU I prepare for the worst. That degree is worthless if you lose your medical at some point. You could move to the management side of the airlines but that's about it or run an FBO.

I have a business degree which is pretty useless working in management for the airlines because an airline seems to be the most poorly run business on the planet next to the United States. It amazes me the decisions that the various airlines out there make from a business standpoint. Alot of them make zero sense. But what do I know.
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That's because airlines survive based on the selling of a dollar product for 50 cents. That's why it will never make sense to business grads. Maybe that's what an AVIA degree does, explain how airlines are able to burn money and still operate the next day.

And I agree on the riddle thing, I was passing time with a riddle grad and we ran into another riddle grad CA from a major. They started talking about the most random things when they found out they were both alums.
 
se1776 sounds like one of the kiddos that couldn't cut it in Dash 8 training. It's an easy airplane to fly, but will eat your lunch if you can't fly a six pack. I second the part about missing flying that tank, but I wouldn't put up with PDT's BS again for anything.

As much as people complain and dislike going to training and a couple of guys whose names come up frequently, you'll know that airplane down cold after flying it for a year. They do a good job getting just enough info into your head in training, and then flying with those who've been in the seat since the airplane was built drills in the rest. After sitting through a Flight Safety Citation initial and three recurrents, I still know way more about a Dash 8 than I do the Citation.

Anyway, hope that 3 or 10 or whatever turns into a significant order for some replacement airframes. Piedmont is one of two regionals I wouldn't have any heartburn over my wife and son riding in the back. Except of course that the airframes are older than dirt and had me abusing them for several years.
 
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OPECJet said:
se1776 sounds like one of the kiddos that couldn't cut it in Dash 8 training. It's an easy airplane to fly, but will eat your lunch if you can't fly a six pack. I second the part about missing flying that tank, but I wouldn't put up with PDT's BS again for anything.

As much as people complain and dislike going to training and a couple of guys whose names come up frequently, you'll know that airplane down cold after flying it for a year. They do a good job getting just enough info into your head in training, and then flying with those who've been in the seat since the airplane was built drills in the rest. After sitting through a Flight Safety Citation initial and three recurrents, I still know way more about a Dash 8 than I do the Citation.

Anyway, hope that 3 or 10 or whatever turns into a significant order for some replacement airframes. Piedmont is one of two regionals I wouldn't have any heartburn over my wife and son riding in the back. Except of course that the airframes are older than dirt and had me abusing them for several years.
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Which other one "wouldn't give you any heartburn"?
 
The saddest thing is, wouldn't it be great if this thread was about the Original Piedmont and that THEY were hiring! Those were the days!
 
CommanderHoek said:
The saddest thing is, wouldn't it be great if this thread was about the Original Piedmont and that THEY were hiring! Those were the days!
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What a Great Airline! Sad day when USAir bought Piedmont and screwed up one the of the best growing Airlines in the United States!
 
Gr82Aviate said:
Which other one "wouldn't give you any heartburn"?
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Drunk post last night. Most of it is the truth, but I wouldn't think twice about putting my family on a Horizon aircraft. Mesaba would be there as well if not for a couple of folks I know there who were Saab street captains.:erm: I shared a hotel van and a bar tab with a class act SkyWest crew a few years ago as well who had their stuff together.

Pretty much, I don't like my family riding with 250 hour wonder kids, or 1500 hour wonder captains, and just about every regional has those albeit with added time and experience after the industry stagnated in '08.
 
OPECJet said:
Drunk post last night. Most of it is the truth, but I wouldn't think twice about putting my family on a Horizon aircraft. Mesaba would be there as well if not for a couple of folks I know there who were Saab street captains.:erm: I shared a hotel van and a bar tab with a class act SkyWest crew a few years ago as well who had their stuff together.

Pretty much, I don't like my family riding with 250 hour wonder kids, or 1500 hour wonder captains, and just about every regional has those albeit with added time and experience after the industry stagnated in '08.
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I hear ya....to my knowledge no "250 wonder kids" have ever been hired at SkyWest, but I could be wrong.
 
Was at Piedmont for two years around 2000-2002. I came from UND. Never had a complaint from a captain.... How many UND guys at that time failed out of training? It was zero at the time. Granted there wasn't any 250 hour new hires at the time. And Yes I loved the Dash, but I enjoy the RJ even more.
 
N813CA said:
Was at Piedmont for two years around 2000-2002. I came from UND. Never had a complaint from a captain....
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Most Captains would complain behind your back as long as you weren't a complete tard. How many F/O's tell a Captain they suck?
 
OPECJet said:
se1776 Piedmont is one of two regionals I wouldn't have any heartburn over my wife and son riding in the back. Except of course that the airframes are older than dirt and had me abusing them for several years.
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A couple of years ago I flew on a Piedmont Dash 8 as a passenger from GSP to CLT. I sat in a window seat on nearest the left gear. There was a crosswind as we made the approach into CLT and on touchdown I witnessed one of the left main tires go flat, the outboard as a matter of fact. I suspect the bead became unseated due to sideload but, I watched it wallow around on the rim as we taxied to the gate. As I was getting off the plane I asked the FA if I could talk to the captain, he said no so I told the FA about the tire and he said he would relay it to the captain. I disembarked and went to another gate to catch a connection and as I sat there looking out the window I noticed they were loading the plane I just got off of, without repairing the tire! I went back to the gate and told the gate agent about the tire and she assurred me that the pilots know what they are doing and to not worry about it. I walked back to my seat and then I noticed a man talking to the gate agent in a suit with a clipboard in his hand so I pulled him aside and made him aware of the flat tire. He had me point the plane out to him and then he called someone on his radio. Next thing I saw was people coming off the plane and maintenance jacking up the left side of the plane.
 
Interesting. Every time I've had one main tire fail, the other follows nearly immediately.
 
N813CA said:
Was at Piedmont for two years around 2000-2002. I came from UND. Never had a complaint from a captain.... How many UND guys at that time failed out of training? It was zero at the time. Granted there wasn't any 250 hour new hires at the time. And Yes I loved the Dash, but I enjoy the RJ even more.
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What do you like more about the RJ? Just curious. I think the CRJ 700 might be nice to fly performance wise.
 
OPECJet said:
Piedmont is one of two regionals I wouldn't have any heartburn over my wife and son riding in the back. Except of course that the airframes are older than dirt and had me abusing them for several years.
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You know that PDT was right there with PSA in hiring 250 hour wonders, right?

PDT's maint. has been particularly lowsy of late as well, although I think we're working on that.
 
Jar Jar said:
You know that PDT was right there with PSA in hiring 250 hour wonders, right?

PDT's maint. has been particularly lowsy of late as well, although I think we're working on that.
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Um.... I was there when they were doing it. They have a training dept that is good at weeding out non-hackers though.
 

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