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I should quit and get rehired so I can make more than I do now as a second year F\O.
 
So sad...but hey, we need people who are going to fill the seats and stay here longer than 2 months. I'm with you mike, let's just leave and get hired again so we can get that cash and we'd only be giving up about 40+ in senority.
 
direct quote from link above
"...$5,000 when they join the our airline."



Good job, maybe they will give you an extra $3,000 for superior grammar and proofreading skills.

It's nice to finally see some sort of incentive for a pilot to go to PDT.
 
For those actually considering PDT

Ok, I'll play the unknowing prospective PDT pilot and ask the following questions (serious responses please for those who might be interested):

1. Beyond the $5K, what are the positives related to flying for PDT? What about negatives?


2. What is the Dash 8 like to fly - fun, easy, boring? How long until potential upgrade?


3. What is the likelihood that a newhire could get a Charlotte base or would it be more likely to get an upstate NY base?


4. Why should someone consider a job with PDT flying the Dash 8 when plenty of regional jet jobs at other regionals exist (admittedly with some bad regionals)?


5. Do many newhires stay at PDT or instead use it as a springboard to another regionals after accumulating hours?


I am not trying to flame here - I am getting out of the regional business myself but I am sure other prospective regional pilots might be interested in this type of information. Thanks for serious responses...
 
I'm not a PDT guy, just a brother redheaded step child. But I am staying in a nasty hotel in Jackson with nothing to do so I'll try answering.

1. Beyond the $5K, what are the positives related to flying for PDT? What about negatives?

Good (relatively) FO pay. A good pilot group. Actually getting to fly a prop so you can't be accused of SJS.


2. What is the Dash 8 like to fly - fun, easy, boring? How long until potential upgrade?

The guys I know that fly it like it. Upgrade? I don't think that exists in the US and USX system. (last I heard it was around 4 years).


3. What is the likelihood that a newhire could get a Charlotte base or would it be more likely to get an upstate NY base?


About 0. CLT isn't a base anymore.


4. Why should someone consider a job with PDT flying the Dash 8 when plenty of regional jet jobs at other regionals exist (admittedly with some bad regionals)?


That is the $100 question. I think that is why they are giving away 5K now.


5. Do many newhires stay at PDT or instead use it as a springboard to another regionals after accumulating hours?

The two guys I knew that were there both left for other places.

Again, this is all from being parked at the gate next to these guys. Your mileage may vary.
 
Ok, I'll play the unknowing prospective PDT pilot and ask the following questions (serious responses please for those who might be interested):

1. Beyond the $5K, what are the positives related to flying for PDT? What about negatives?


2. What is the Dash 8 like to fly - fun, easy, boring? How long until potential upgrade?


3. What is the likelihood that a newhire could get a Charlotte base or would it be more likely to get an upstate NY base?


4. Why should someone consider a job with PDT flying the Dash 8 when plenty of regional jet jobs at other regionals exist (admittedly with some bad regionals)?


5. Do many newhires stay at PDT or instead use it as a springboard to another regionals after accumulating hours?


I am not trying to flame here - I am getting out of the regional business myself but I am sure other prospective regional pilots might be interested in this type of information. Thanks for serious responses...

I'll take a stab at it.

1. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. PDT is fine, especially if you live in base. The crews are as good as you will find anywhere, and you will be the sharpest you'll probably ever be after a couple of years in the mighty dash (unless you've spent a couple years flying the Beech or the Jball... Now thats sharp!). PDT has been ok for me for a several years, and I came from Trans States- Now that was a f*cked up airlines.

Negatives? You'll work hard. You'll get sweaty and get lots of turbine oil on your shirt (how a pilot shirt ought to be if you ask me...). You won't get a lot of company support, although I can say from personal experience thier hearts are only mostly made of stone. The upgrade is kinda slow right now, but who knows how that might change (during my seven years here it has gone anywhere from two years to five years). The equipment is old, so the kids who aren't easily impressed won't think you are that cool. That's ok... Hot chicks dig beta! Latest rumor from the new US VP of Express is that an ATR buy might not be entirely out of the question. Well my career would be full circle then: TSA ATR to PDT dash to PDT ATR. Anyone wanna buy some high wing t-prop time?

2. I think the airplane is bad ass. Once you learn it the dash will sit up and bark for you. But you have to babysit it... It isn't an airplane for the lazy. Systems are tough if you don't have any t-prop time... The ECU and electrical system can blow your mind if you are dumb like me. Landings will frustrate you no matter how much time you have in the airplane. It will take good care of you though... I have seen enough ice on the dash to cover sink the Titanic and it still behaved well.

3. CLT base is long gone. Everything is junior for FOs. I am guessing LGA, SYR and SBY are probably very doable for a new hire.

4. Tough question. If you live in base (or close to) I think it is a no brainer. The slow upgrade is a definate detractor, but those things tend to be cyclical. PDT has a good contract, so it makes it a better choice than some airlines. The upgrade is slow right now, so maybe someplace like REP is a better choice. With the hiring cycle starting to upswing the upgrade time is bound to get shorter. It just depends on what you want. With the pace of growth at a lot of regionals it is hard to make a case to come to PDT based on upgrade alone. It isn't a bad place to hang out while waiting for something you percieve to be better.

5. Most newhires, unless they have family ties to the base they live in a leaving for rapid upgrades. Hopefully it works out for them. I don't bame them for going.
 
Ok, I'll play the unknowing prospective PDT pilot and ask the following questions (serious responses please for those who might be interested):

1. Beyond the $5K, what are the positives related to flying for PDT? What about negatives?


2. What is the Dash 8 like to fly - fun, easy, boring? How long until potential upgrade?


3. What is the likelihood that a newhire could get a Charlotte base or would it be more likely to get an upstate NY base?


4. Why should someone consider a job with PDT flying the Dash 8 when plenty of regional jet jobs at other regionals exist (admittedly with some bad regionals)?


5. Do many newhires stay at PDT or instead use it as a springboard to another regionals after accumulating hours?


I am not trying to flame here - I am getting out of the regional business myself but I am sure other prospective regional pilots might be interested in this type of information. Thanks for serious responses...


thanks for asking those questions, i was interested in learning more about it myself
 
What the heck is the ECU? And as far as landing, I'm a total convert to 1050... no matter WHAT LH said in SOE lo those years ago... I've been told that 900 makes the Dash land exactly like a jet (ie, totally freaking effortless).

I've been told.

But yes, the points are valid. If you're bent on flying a R(egular)J for less than what I make, you shouldn't even apply. If you are moderately clever, you can make some money here. If you're truly bright, you wouldn't be an airline pilot, so that point is moot.
 
What the heck is the ECU? And as far as landing, I'm a total convert to 1050... no matter WHAT LH said in SOE lo those years ago... I've been told that 900 makes the Dash land exactly like a jet (ie, totally freaking effortless).

I've been told.

But yes, the points are valid. If you're bent on flying a R(egular)J for less than what I make, you shouldn't even apply. If you are moderately clever, you can make some money here. If you're truly bright, you wouldn't be an airline pilot, so that point is moot.



Funny, I fou... was told that too.....
 
Honestly I don't see this helping too much (the 5 grand)! Instead of trying to pay people to come here, it seems it would be cheaper to try and do things to make people wanna stay!
Like what you may ask!
1st they could treat us better! How much would it cost the company to have the Chief Pilot call you and tell you thanks for working on your day off! We know that Junior Man really screwed up your schedule, however we wanted you to know how much we appreciated it! Now, the sting of the Junior Man isn't as bad because you know that they really appreciated your Help! Not just calling you after your 4th occurence or when you do something wrong! So him calling and saying thanks, didn't cost the company crap!
2nd How about painting a Airplane, or trying to keep the planes they have in nice condition! We get our arse ridin' about Impressions of Excellence however most of our planes look like Shizzzzznit!!
3rd..... Hell, I don't know! Just do freaking something to make people wanna stay more then 6 months!
This 5k will get some people here, but many will probably take the 2500.00 at trainings end, and still leave!
 
This 5k will get some people here, but many will probably take the 2500.00 at trainings end, and still leave![/quote]

I know I would if I was a low time CFI!
Also, if they did'nt make you feel like you were going to get fired at the drop of a hat for something like calling in sick!

:blush: Be smart, take the $2500 and run off with PJ into the sunset!!!!!
 
We get our arse ridin' about Impressions of Excellence however most of our planes look like Shizzzzznit!!

Wow - they (USAirways) is still riding this tired old dog? I remember way back in the early 90's being sent to PIT to attend one of the first conferences....even got a shiny piece of paper documenting my attendance...maybe I should put that in a frame?

On another note - I've been back in the SIM center for the last couple months after last being there almost 10 years ago with ALG. I don't think the place has been painted or improved since a decade ago.

Same paint, carpet, and old travel posters....but it sure has been fun running into old friends.
 

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