PDT reduce fleet, furloughs in the future.

[Sig]

On a side note however.

On Friday February 27th, attorneys from Alpa National filed suit on behalf of the Pilots of Piedmont Airlines and PSA Airlines in the United States District Court of VA. The suit seeks Injunctive and Declaratory relief over the multi party dispute arising from the alleged failure to provide for wholly owned pilots flow through to mainline. While this step can be considered a major milestone in unraveling this issue, it is important to remember that resolution to this matter may be a long way off.

And many months ago, someone farted during hurricane Katrina.

YAWN

 

[WSurf]

And many months ago, someone farted during hurricane Katrina.

YAWN

What else would you like?

 

[Sig]

Someone to pull my finger.

Often.

But that's my kink... Honestly, who gives a shiite? You don't invest in these turds' actions, why should I? I'm so phenomenally over it...

 

[WSurf]

Someone to pull my finger.

Often.

But that's my kink... Honestly, who gives a shiite? You don't invest in these turds' actions, why should I? I'm so phenomenally over it...

I think we're all over it. The only way to get at these people is the 'Wallet'.

I am for one glad that there's been some legal action taken.

Remember we are working under a concessionary contract. They can have there flowthru, I just want the money they have stolen out of my wallet. It's time to reach into theirs.

 

[Sig]

I think we're all over it. The only way to get at these people is the 'Wallet'.

I am for one glad that there's been some legal action taken.

Remember we are working under a concessionary contract. They can have there flowthru, I just want the money they have stolen out of my wallet. It's time to reach into theirs.

I've been so bitter for so long, I honestly don't care anymore.

I just got "short called," except for one minor deet: I'm not on call.

Gotta love caller ID!

Dougweiser saying he'd give back the remaining 7 if he had to make the decision today, the FEEYUCKED occurrence policy, duct-taped planes, Farrow spinning the ASM for the Dash, our airline has 4X the employees as PSA... we're done, dude.

So am I. And I couldn't give two sh**s less about it anymore.

I'm very strongly considering going to Dr. Somerov and getting my Master's degree. This industry is toast, and I will never sell out to a cu ntract carrier to make a buck

 

[BeCareful!]

On a side note however.

On Friday February 27th, attorneys from Alpa National filed suit on behalf of the Pilots of Piedmont Airlines and PSA Airlines in the United States District Court of VA. The suit seeks Injunctive and Declaratory relief over the multi party dispute arising from the alleged failure to provide for wholly owned pilots flow through to mainline. While this step can be considered a major milestone in unraveling this issue, it is important to remember that resolution to this matter may be a long way off.

Go git 'em, ALPA!

And just in the nick of time!

Wait....you guys do know Mainline has a few hundred on furlough, right?

Seriously, I wish you guys all luck with this crate of crap. ALPA, collectively all three AAA units, somehow managed to screw everyone with all the LOA's and cute little contractions and acronyms over the last seven or eight years. The only winner was the company, who ended up with a gloriously divided bunch of pilots with no work rules.

Nice work ALPA! Keep at it! Success is right around the corner!!! Don't let up now!!! Assess the pilot for more money if you need to, but stay the course!! You'll get 'em!!!!

 

[CALRepublic]

Nice work ALPA! Keep at it! Success is right around the corner!!! Don't let up now!!! Assess the pilot for more money if you need to, but stay the course!! You'll get 'em!!!!

"good job ALPA",
"Nice work"
"you'll get them"

yeah right

What the hell are you talking about, is this your first experience with ALPA?? this organization is so f****n useless is not even funny... Give me one sceneraio where ALPA came in and saved the day?? just one.....

Look at all the best contracts, which one did ALPA negotiate??

 

[OPECJet]

"good job ALPA",
Look at all the best contracts, which one did ALPA negotiate??

FedEx.

 

[greyskyracer]

"good job ALPA",
"Nice work"
"you'll get them"

yeah right

What the hell are you talking about, is this your first experience with ALPA?? this organization is so f****n useless is not even funny... Give me one sceneraio where ALPA came in and saved the day?? just one.....

Look at all the best contracts, which one did ALPA negotiate??

sar⋅casm


–noun 1.harsh or bitter derision or irony.2.a sharply ironical taunt; sneering or cutting remark: a review full of sarcasms.

 

[WSurf]

I am sure the only reason ALPA is jumpin on this is to try and stick it too USAPA. When US Airways pilots dumped ALPA that caused ALPA to lose their money. And if there's one thing ALPA cares about is 'Da Money'.

Theres no way that ALPA woulda started legal action against ALPA. But now the game could be on.

 

[CALRepublic]

FedEx.

right, the Fedex contract, ALPA the "one hit wonder" . Fedex is doing very well, they have a lot of cash, most airlines don't, including Piedmont. When ALPA gets an airline a similar contract, you let me know.

 

[AceCrackshot]

Its been six years since I worked there, and the news continues to be powerfully depressing.

The good news seems to be that Piedmont and its employees can be boiled indefinately without spilling over.

 

[WSurf]

right, the Fedex contract, ALPA the "one hit wonder" . Fedex is doing very well, they have a lot of cash, most airlines don't, including Piedmont. When ALPA gets an airline a similar contract, you let me know.

And then he ate the worm!

 

[WSurf]

The good news seems to be that Piedmont and its employees can be boiled indefinately without spilling over.

Now dats funny right dare! I don't care who you 'r'!

 

[Metro752]

Why do pilots find out there has been a lawsuit filed on their behalf on a public message board?

 

[AceCrackshot]

Now dats funny right dare! I don't care who you 'r'!

WSurf, everytime I see that avatar, it brings back the Christmas-like joy of finding one of those illustrations in the maintenance log.

I wanted to do one, with three dinosaurs, marked PDT, ALG and PSA wrestling over a bone marked RJs while an astroid marked "bankruptcy" loomed over their heads.

 

[WSurf]

I wanted to do one, with three dinosaurs, marked PDT, ALG and PSA wrestling over a bone marked RJs while an astroid marked "bankruptcy" loomed over their heads.

Yep, we got played like suckers! That would have been the perfect.

 

[WSurf]

Why do pilots find out there has been a lawsuit filed on their behalf on a public message board?

Because Like Sig says, "We are all F'in over it"

 

[AceCrackshot]

Yep, we got played like suckers! That would have been the perfect.

I don't know how many arguments I had with people in the 2002-2003 timeframe arguing that our concessions should have been conditional on the WO's maintaining a minimum fleet size with reference to ML. It didn't matter what the airplanes were...J-3 Cubs, 1900s, Dash 8s or A330s. Minimum fleet size...if ML downsizes, we downsize. If they grow the regionals, we grow.

I don't know if it would have been possible, but it would have been a better deal than the whole "First WO to secure concessions gets RJs!" Siegal HappyTalk.

But EVERYONE knew that RJs were the Wave of the Future.

I use the "retroactive pay cut" I got in 2003 as my example of bad the airline industry sucks.

 

[Captzaahlie]

I am sure the only reason ALPA is jumpin on this is to try and stick it too USAPA. When US Airways pilots dumped ALPA that caused ALPA to lose their money. And if there's one thing ALPA cares about is 'Da Money'.

Theres no way that ALPA woulda started legal action against ALPA. But now the game could be on.

I just don't think USAPA is shaking in their boots yet and/or even gives a rats azz:

Item Three: A complaint that was filed on February 27th in federal court in Alexandria, VA, by ALPA against US Airways, Piedmont, PSA, and also names USAPA as a "Rule 19(a) Required Party." The suit was filed by ALPA based on their contention that the airline defendants failed to comply with contractual commitments to ALPA establishing the right of Piedmont and PSA pilots to "flow through" to new-hire US Airways pilot positions. No damages are sought against USAPA. As a Rule 19(a) party, USAPA has been joined as a party because of ALPA's allegation that without USAPA, the court cannot accord complete relief among the existing parties. The relief being sought by ALPA is an order requiring the defendants to establish a multi-party adjustment board to enable the board to resolve the "flow-through" dispute. While USAPA will likely have to file an answer to this complaint, we do not expect to play a significant role in this litigation as USAPA is not the target


(cut from a weekly usapa update)

 

[WSurf]

I just don't think USAPA is shaking in their boots yet and/or even gives a rats azz:

We don't expect them to shake in their boots.

 

[FMEpilot]

Well should by some reason they roll over and we win, AND this place is around in 3 years.... PDT could be the place to be. But I would have to say none of this is likely to happen.

 

[Captzaahlie]

We don't expect them to shake in their boots.

Don't get me wrong I wasn't posting that to be an azz myself.... I just read their response as them being very matter of fact. Personally I'd love to see something come of the lawsuit for all my friends at PDT but I think a gain is unlikely..... I hope that I'm wrong.

 

[CALRepublic]

We don't expect them to shake in their boots.

Hey WSurf I like your avatar man, takes me back. I remember those food vouchers we used to get (@ Allegheny), nobody wanted those things. I remember the Chinese place at La Garbage, "no, you pay money, USAir no good".... ha, those were the times, I miss Allegheny

 

[BeCareful!]

"good job ALPA",
"Nice work"
"you'll get them"

yeah right

What the hell are you talking about, is this your first experience with ALPA?? this organization is so f****n useless is not even funny... Give me one sceneraio where ALPA came in and saved the day?? just one.....

Look at all the best contracts, which one did ALPA negotiate??

Sarcasm didn't come through for ya? Sorry bout that. Dude, I despise ALPA and all that it has become. I wish you luck if you are represented by them.....you'll need lots of it.

BC

 

[Whataburger]

Is it true that Ray Torres is running some part operation out of Miami called something like RTair???

 

[OPECJet]

Is it true that Ray Torres is running some part operation out of Miami called something like RTair???

Don't know if it's the same Ray Torres, but there is an RT Aerospace out of Miami that specializes in Cessna 337 conversions and some 210 stuff as well. They also have some wicked RC airplane kits.

 

[Captzaahlie]

Don't know if it's the same Ray Torres, but there is an RT Aerospace out of Miami that specializes in Cessna 337 conversions and some 210 stuff as well. They also have some wicked RC airplane kits.

Follow dee mayenta pointor....

and chimney dee fight ayedentant when you git

dirsty.

The guy would give you the shirt off his back if it

would help you learn something.... he put his heart

into teaching.

 

[OPECJet]

Follow dee mayenta pointor....

and chimney dee fight ayedentant when you git

dirsty.

The guy would give you the shirt off his back if it

would help you learn something.... he put his heart

into teaching.

He left a great legacy. Pilots at Piedmont still chimmee the flight attendant, and follow the prohedures. I doubt anyone there will remember me in 10 years!:laugh:

 

[deadstick]

He left a great legacy. Pilots at Piedmont still chimmee the flight attendant, and follow the prohedures. I doubt anyone there will remember me in 10 years!:laugh:

They do WHAT to the F/A's?