PCL ALPA sues Pinnacle Airlines

[Carl_Spackler]

Why has ALPA not sued to get the agreements overturned if they were signed under duress? If is really that simple, it would have happened already.

A re-distribution of wealth does affect me. Not as much as people who earn higher incomes, but it still does. I think what you are trying to point out is that as long as it doesn't affect me, then I shouldn't care if someone else gets screwed. In that case, tax the hell out of backpacks, ipods, hair gel, windbreakers and all of the other goods I don't consume because it won't affect me.

 

[DoinTime]

A re-distribution of wealth does affect me. Not as much as people who earn higher incomes, but it still does.

Redistribution of wealth certainly does effect you. When the middle class gets to keep more of their money they do what all good Americans do, they spend it. They buy tickets on airlines that take them to vacation spots like Florida or Las Vegas. The ticket revenue keeps airlines healthy and allows them to grow so they can employ lots of pilots therefore providing you with job security and career advancement.

Redistribution of wealth benefits all pilots. We should all be so lucky as to elect government representatives that take up our cause.

 

[jea]

Its really quite simple, do some data mining and find out who he is, get em fired, plain and simple, he is the enemy and must be flushed back to the Carls JR where he/it belongs!
Fukk em
PBR

Chicken $hit

 

[Carl_Spackler]

I think milton freedman and adam smith just rolled over in their graves.

 

[PCL_128]

Why has ALPA not sued to get the agreements overturned if they were signed under duress? If is really that simple, it would have happened already.

Because the law specifically allows for this type of predatory bargaining on the part of management. Section 1113(c) gives management this power. You seem to think that RLA contracts are subject to the same rules as any other contract (ie. under duress=void contract), but that's not the case. Contracts under the RLA have their own specific set of laws carved out for them, and we have no way to void an agreement based on duress. The bankruptcy laws allow management to force our hand. It's time that we fix it.

 

[Nevets]

Because the law specifically allows for this type of predatory bargaining on the part of management. Section 1113(c) gives management this power. You seem to think that RLA contracts are subject to the same rules as any other contract (ie. under duress=void contract), but that's not the case. Contracts under the RLA have their own specific set of laws carved out for them, and we have no way to void an agreement based on duress. The bankruptcy laws allow management to force our hand. It's time that we fix it.

And at least ALPA is trying to do something about it.

Release #07.047
September 25, 2007

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ALPA Hails Bankruptcy Reform Legislation Introduction

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WASHINGTON—The Air Line Pilots Association, International (ALPA) president Capt. John Prater joined other AFL-CIO union leaders and key members of Congress today to announce new legislation that would remedy the unjust bankruptcy code that helped airline managements strip workers of their hard-earned pensions, salaries, and work rules following the events of 9/11.

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“Managements and bankruptcy judges used the law to force America’s workers to give too much after terrorists attacked this nation on that dark day in September,” said Prater. “But now that the emergency is over, it’s time to fix the bankruptcy code, and this bill is a good first step.” (read Capt. Prater's statement)

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The “Protecting Employees and Retirees in Business Bankruptcies Act of 2007” would close loopholes that enabled managements to gut workers’ contracts during tough economic times, and would put workers and retirees on equal footing with businesses and banks when companies go bankrupt.

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“Since 2001, pilots have given more than $30 billion in concessions, sacrificing an enormous amount to save our airlines and our jobs,” said Prater. “This bill promotes economic fairness and requires shared sacrifice among all company stakeholders—that’s something we can all embrace.”

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The legislation is being introduced by U.S. House of Representatives Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers (D-Mich.) and U.S. Senate Assistant Majority Leader Richard Durbin (D-Ill.).

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Founded in 1931, ALPA is the world’s largest pilot union representing more than 60,000 cockpit crewmembers at 41 airlines in the U.S. and Canada. Visit the ALPA website at www.alpa.org for more information.​

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CONTACT: Pete Janhunen, Linda Shotwell, Molly Martin, (703) 481-4440
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[Flyprdu]

"Vote your job, because without that, nothing else matters. The best principals in the world don't pay the bills or keep you and your family warm at night."

Genius.

 

[samballs]

PAC money is used to contribute to candidates that are pro-pilot. If we get enough of them into office, then we can effect change. ALPA is currently working to fix the bankruptcy system that allowed the airlines to use section 1113(c) to gut labor contracts. You can go to the ALPA web site to view Captain Prater's recent testimony on the issue. Hopefully they will be successful in bringing change on that issue, and if enough pro-pilot candidates are elected, then RLA change could be next.

Thankfully ALPA waited till every airline finished with BK before starting this fight

 

[PCL_128]

Thankfully ALPA waited till every airline finished with BK before starting this fight

Perhaps you didn't notice that the Democrats didn't get into power in Congress until January. Trying to effect bankruptcy reform under a Republican majority is a fool's errand.

 

[Dumb Pilot]

ALPA sucks!

Oh $hit! IIIINNNNNNCOMMMMINGGGGG