Pay cuts for Bridgeway employees

[cgmason1]

Good luck in your next pilot position "Alice". "Furloughed NJA" pilot will look great on your resume.

I have a feeling Lake Alice will be just fine.

Its okay to be jealous though-I hear it coming through loud and clear.

Good luck NJA pilots-make them give you what they promised.

After all they raised owner fees how many years ago-based on giving the pilots a raise they never received.

Fly Safe
Chuck

 

[Hawk Driver]

I have a feeling Lake Alice will be just fine.

Its okay to be jealous though-I hear it coming through loud and clear.

Good luck NJA pilots-make them give you what they promised.

After all they raised owner fees how many years ago-based on giving the pilots a raise they never received.

Fly Safe
Chuck

Posted by NJAOwner on another thread:

"Extra Fees to Owners
The company (NJA) as raised the rates to the owners to provide raises for the crews, have they gotten them? NO!!

This is one of the big misconceptions which has been on the board for a long time. The pilots have been told by someone other than the Company, that the Company raised management fees to the owners years ago to pay for the raises to the pilots. Suppossedly, the Company has been stockpiling this cash for years, without passing any of it along to the pilots.

I have never had an increase in fees to cover the new pilots contract. I have been with the Company for enough years that I have had to renew my contract, and the only increases have been the standard minimum 3.75% increase in fees each year. In fact, the contracts provide that the fees shall increase at the great of a certain CPI calculation or 3.75% per year."


HD

 

[Fracster]

Well they better start raising fees and quit selling off the core fleet. Somebody needs to pay for the pilots raises.

The non-union people are also more competitive and used to being evaluated and promoted based on performance.

As for this comment I can only laugh. At some companies performance may be a motivating factor for promotion. At NetJets its all about who's arse you kiss and who's your buddy.

most people (non-union) change jobs every 5 years or so.

Pilots dont change jobs as often as non-union employees. They put their heart and soul into a company and career. We have more at stake and more to lose. For these reasons you will never understand what standing up for your future is about because, after all, you'll be out of here in 5 years unless you kiss arse into upper management. God help us.

 

[FamilyGuy]

Pilots dont change jobs as often as non-union employees. They put their heart and soul into a company and career. We have more at stake and more to lose. For these reasons you will never understand what standing up for your future is about because, after all, you'll be out of here in 5 years unless you kiss arse into upper management. God help us.

You're right....I dont understand a union that demands a pay package that cost the company 3 times the current pay package.

If you really do have more at stake and want to build a secure future in an uncertain world then you wouldnt have your union making outrageous demands that the company can not afford.

I've seen a lot of bitching on this site about a lack of REASONABLE offers from the company, but now that we've seen what the union is demanding, it is clear that they are equally at fault for this stalemate.

 

[Some guy]

As for this comment I can only laugh. At some companies performance may be a motivating factor for promotion. At NetJets its all about who's arse you kiss and who's your buddy.

Just out of curiosity, just how much time do you spend at Bridgeway? Most of us don't have the time for "arse kissing".

 

[Fracster]

You're right....I dont understand a union that demands a pay package that cost the company 3 times the current pay package.

And you never will. You've only heard company propaganda. We are asking for the 10th percentile in NBAA pay, thats it. Completely fair. Because you cant think for yourself you get on the screwops site, read a little spin by Moisture make a judgement. Look at the numbers. Learn how much an aircraft brings in and where the money goes. Educate yourself. The current pay package is so low that 3 times that amount is whats required. Learn to read through the spin for gods sake.

Just out of curiosity, just how much time do you spend at Bridgeway? Most of us don't have the time for "arse kissing".

I've spent enought time up there know what goes on and that I want no part of it. I avoid that hole like the plague.

 

[cgmason1]

Posted by NJAOwner on another thread:

"Extra Fees to Owners
The company (NJA) as raised the rates to the owners to provide raises for the crews, have they gotten them? NO!!

This is one of the big misconceptions which has been on the board for a long time. The pilots have been told by someone other than the Company, that the Company raised management fees to the owners years ago to pay for the raises to the pilots. HD

I had an owner ask me directly how are negotiations were going and wondered why we had not gotten raises since his owner fees were raised as a result of these raises(in a renewed contract).
Again he said this in the simplest of terms that even I could understand-so this coupled with everyone else saying fees were raised would lead me to believe=
fees were raised and this was the reason they were given.

Bottom line is-bad management, inefficiency, and not negotiating in good faith has led to poor morale which has to equate to a lower level of customer service.

4 years? of negotiating? WTF!

Fly Safe
Chuck

 

[Hogprint]

I had an owner ask me directly how are negotiations were going and wondered why we had not gotten raises since his owner fees were raised as a result of these raises(in a renewed contract).
Again he said this in the simplest of terms that even I could understand-so this coupled with everyone else saying fees were raised would lead me to believe=
fees were raised and this was the reason they were given.

Bottom line is-bad management, inefficiency, and not negotiating in good faith has led to poor morale which has to equate to a lower level of customer service.

4 years? of negotiating? WTF!

Fly Safe
Chuck

Basically the same scenario has played out for me also.

Not to mention the 3.75% is slated for pilot salaries, or so the company says.

 

[gunfyter]

You're right....I dont understand a union that demands a pay package that cost the company 3 times the current pay package..

This is FALSE.

 

[Hogprint]

Minister of Misinformation wrongly posted:

I dont understand a union that demands a pay package that cost the company 3 times the current pay package

You sure you want to stand by this statement?

I see we've read Bob's latest posting. Are you sure Bob has his ducks in a row?

As Paul Harvey would say, better wait for the rest of the story.

 

[FrontierFan]

I see the FAs just got a raise

 

[gunfyter]

The title of this thread is STUPID.

Bridgeway Bob is doing enough to turn folks against us. Don't help him.

 

[Fracster]

There might be 15% max of the pilot group who buy into bridgeway bob's BS. 1% of the pilot group are going to listen to the puzzle palace idiots on this board as well. So in short, 21% of the pilot group might be dumb enough to not seek out the truth.

We have an intelligent pilot group, we don't have intelligent management.

 

[Sarka]

The title of this thread is STUPID.

Bridgeway Bob is doing enough to turn folks against us. Don't help him.

Thank you.

 

[FamilyGuy]

There might be 15% max of the pilot group who buy into bridgeway bob's BS. 1% of the pilot group are going to listen to the puzzle palace idiots on this board as well. So in short, 21% of the pilot group might be dumb enough to not seek out the truth.

We have an intelligent pilot group, we don't have intelligent management.

LOL....anyone else see the humor in this?

Another glaring example of deficiency in basic math. Lord help the negotiators.

Maybe this is why they cant see the 30% increase...