Passed PIC checkride at Netjets!!

beytzim

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Well, folks, it is true what they say: People do upgrade quick at Netjets.

I just passed the PIC checkride yesterday. My new hire date is less than 90 days ago. Yep, I've been here less than 3 months.

From my understanding, I'm affecting the pay of almost 100 other pilots. (I like Stoli's - thank you.)

The training program is great over here. As long as you study hard and have good part 135 jet captain experience, it's straight forward. Then again if you are 91, 121 experienced, you may struggle!


When it comes down to it, it's up to each individual. The Upgrade program really demands a lot - but if you study hard - you'll do well.

Good Luck! (I'm going partying!)
 

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...Then again if you are 91, 121 experienced, you may struggle!

Care to elaborate on what you mean by that?
 

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Judging from your profile, you haven't experienced 121 training. Take it from someone who's done all three, 121 is like no other.
 
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Bye the profile, it looks like he is probably in the hawker 800xp.

Congrats on passing the pic ride.


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"The training program is great over here. As long as you study hard and have good part 135 jet captain experience, it's straight forward. Then again if you are 91, 121 experienced, you may struggle! "

I am going take his remark to mean that if you already have 135 experience and knowledge you can focus on just the airplane.

If it was meant as airline dig, I will let yall deal with him...<bg>

Humble
 

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UUpgrade at Netjets

The training at Ntjets is tough. After going through indoc and company training with three retired captains from United and Continental all three stated that the training we are forced to undure is much harder than anything they had done. Take it for what it s worth. Its my opinion that if you pass an upgrade checkride at Netjets your doing something right!
 

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Yeah I beg to differ about 121 training. It may be tough at some places. But my experience at PDT was anything but good. It was tuff because you had to teach yourself everything. The instructor didn't do anything except read the book to you and didn't do that very good. We were told twice if you are here to learn something think again. So it was pretty much teach yourself or else. I left during ground school for something better. Which I didn't regret one bit. After everthing that's going on over there and the ground school it sucked just the little time I was there.
 

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I am going take his remark to mean that if you already have 135 experience and knowledge you can focus on just the airplane.

Humblepilot,

135 isn't all that different from 121 that it would be a problem during training. I've flown under all the FAR's at some point in my career and never had much problem adapting. Since most initial training focuses on company op specs and procedures and finally aircraft sysytems, I just didn't understand what the original poster was getting at.


After going through indoc and company training with three retired captains from United and Continental all three stated that the training we are forced to undure is much harder than anything they had done.

Lrjet55,

That doesn't mean a whole lot. These "retired" Capt's had probably been flying the same aircraft, over the same routes and airports, for many years prior to retiring from their respective airline. A person, by that time, tends to forget how much work and how difficult it was initially until they're presented with a totally new challenge. Not to mention that many of them probably hadn't had to seriously crack a book in quite a while. Now they have to learn a brand new aircraft along with new op specs and procedures for a whole new company. Trust me, initial training at the airlines is no piece of cake either! Just ask any new hire sometime.

Anyway, I'm getting way off the original poster's subject. Congrats on the recent upgrade.
 

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FL000 said:
Judging from your profile, you haven't experienced 121 training. Take it from someone who's done all three, 121 is like no other.
Yea, 121 is a piece of cake!!!!! Op specs are op specs are op specs.........etc.....

The more we are regulated, ie. 121, the less decisions we have to make during a given flight. When its FAR Part 91, the parameters are widened quite significantly. This requires the upmost in pilot judgement and decisivness.

gump

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beytzim said:
Well, folks, it is true what they say: People do upgrade quick at Netjets.

I just passed the PIC checkride yesterday. My new hire date is less than 90 days ago. Yep, I've been here less than 3 months.

From my understanding, I'm affecting the pay of almost 100 other pilots. (I like Stoli's - thank you.)

The training program is great over here. As long as you study hard and have good part 135 jet captain experience, it's straight forward. Then again if you are 91, 121 experienced, you may struggle!


When it comes down to it, it's up to each individual. The Upgrade program really demands a lot - but if you study hard - you'll do well.


Good Luck! (I'm going partying!)
Congrats brother!!! Drink one for me. I'm in the pen for day 5 of 6!!!

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"Trust me, initial training at the airlines is no piece of cake either! Just ask any new hire sometime. "

Yep I did the 767/757 type as a new hire. But pilots are all alike.

How many times have you heard someone describing their career based on the number of type ratings or the fact they have no pink slips. Or our training department is tougher than yours...LOL

At the end of my career, I would rather brag about the fact no one got hurt either up front or in the back, ultimately that is all that matters.

Congrats, fly safe,
Humble
 

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Humblepilot said:
"Trust me, initial training at the airlines is no piece of cake either! Just ask any new hire sometime. "

Yep I did the 767/757 type as a new hire. But pilots are all alike.

How many times have you heard someone describing their career based on the number of type ratings or the fact they have no pink slips. Or our training department is tougher than yours...LOL

At the end of my career, I would rather brag about the fact no one got hurt either up front or in the back, ultimately that is all that matters.

Congrats, fly safe,
Humble
You must be a liberal!!! Bleeding heart, that is.....hehe
 

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gump88 said:


You must be a liberal!!! Bleeding heart, that is.....hehe
WHOOP WHOOP PULL UP THREAD DRIFT!!!!

Remember. It was ALL a right wing conspiracy...<BG>

Humble
 

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Humblepilot said:


WHOOP WHOOP PULL UP THREAD DRIFT!!!!

Remember. It was ALL a right wing conspiracy...<BG>

Humble
CORRECTING!!
 

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You know, there are some people that don't take advice when its given. Further, they choose to ignore the advice and instead insult the person.

I have 91, 121, and 135 time. I may not have 15,000 hours or 10 type ratings, but I can still try to give advice in the most humble way.

Here's the point: 121 guys have a more difficult time at Netjets because of:
1. New regs to learn
2. Learning how to operate at uncontrolled fields and a plethora of scenarios that the 121 world never touches.
3. Flying new aircraft that are advanced and powereful (the X etc.)
4. There is a lot more involved in the crew decision making process compared to the 121 world.

I am NOT insulting the 121 world at all. Netjets just plays with a different set of rules that SOME 121 guys have trouble acclimating to. I'm sure the same thing happens when ex-135 guys go to 121 airlines.

Anyway, just happy to be a Captain in the best bizjet company in the world!

beytzim

(And oh by the way, I flew CV-600/640s in a scheduled 121 airline)
 

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PIC ride at EJA...

I'm not sure if I can say that my 121 training was slack, but I'm sure it was comparable to EJA, or for that matter one of my many other jobs....and can I make a comment.. I LOVE the UPS CAPT's delivery guy....the best!!!
 

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Beytizm,
Congrats on the ride.
The simple fact that you studied and had the right attitude is why you passed your ride. The company is not in the habit of passing anyone because of prior experience. I do not want to slam you or anyone else, but the way to pass a ride at NJA ,or any company is to study, listen, and a positive attitude.
Best of luck.
 

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I will say this about NJA, we have an execellent training program. However, I would advise the new hires here not to jump the gun just to be captain. Checkride is one thing, the line is another. Get to know the company before you jump into the seat. Hell the flying here is the easy part.
 

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beytzim,
Congrats on the upgrade. If you would, send me a private email with the dates you finished your type ride, a.c. in flight training, and your date of hire. I have been with the company awhile now, +4 months, and am awaiting captain pay in fact due to your upgrade. I think I may have slipped through the cracks for the up in pay. Thanks a lot and continued success.
 
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