Pass the word to OFFLINE Flight Attendant Jumpseaters on Jetblue

[8vATE]

The too good to be true unlimited jumpseating by other airline (offline) flight attendants is coming to an end.

Starting November 1, offline F/A jumpseaters WITHOUT reciprocal F/A jumpseat agreements will be paying $25+taxes for a ride.

DOES NOT AFFECT PILOTS and will NEVER AFFECT PILOTS.

FYI.

 

[BrokenWing]

The word to pass is B6 is willing to provide reciprocating agreements with whatever airline is willing to do that. If you are an O/L flight attendant, start making some noise at your airline. What's fair is fair.

 

[fatboyplt]

Just rode to BTV from JFK this pm and the F/A's did in fact mentioned this situation to me as well. The word is to spread this to all airline F/A's so no one is surprised this Nov.....

Birdman
BTV

 

[Lowrider717]

I'm sure it won't be long before B6 reciprocates Tranys $25 policy for pilot jumpseaters. Oh excuse me...I mean "walk up pass".

 

[roadrunnerblue]

I'm sure it won't be long before B6 reciprocates Tranys $25 policy for pilot jumpseaters. Oh excuse me...I mean "walk up pass".

SHHH! Don't give the JBU flight attendants any ideas!

 

[DonVerita]

I'm sure it won't be long before B6 reciprocates Tranys $25 policy for pilot jumpseaters. Oh excuse me...I mean "walk up pass".

I knew it wouldn't take long for some tool to make a statement like that. Feel better now?

First jumpseater rides free...just like at Delta. Any further questions...see previous threads.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

Looks like the Regionals will be SOL, we only have enough seats for the required amount of FAs.

 

[da90drivr]

You can offer a cabin seat to an FA same as you would another pilot.
Don't think anyone is SOL.
I think the JB FA's just want the ability to commute offline like other airlines have been doing on them for the past 6 years with no reciprocity.

Looks like the Regionals will be SOL, we only have enough seats for the required amount of FAs.

 

[seahorse]

I'm sure it won't be long before B6 reciprocates Tranys $25 policy for pilot jumpseaters. Oh excuse me...I mean "walk up pass".

Yeah you guys started a great trend with that idea.

 

[Kharma Police]

Yeah you guys started a great trend with that idea.

Yeah, kinda like waiting 6 months for health insurance.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

You can offer a cabin seat to an FA same as you would another pilot.
Don't think anyone is SOL.
I think the JB FA's just want the ability to commute offline like other airlines have been doing on them for the past 6 years with no reciprocity.

Yeah, as soon as I wrote that post, I thought I may have misunderstood the idea.

 

[Lowrider717]

Yeah you guys started a great trend with that idea.

Tell me about it! Hopefully this won't get overlooked in our current mediation for a new contract. Our current contract didn't give us any leverage when the bean counters decided to start charging the 25 bucks.

You can paint dogsh!t any color you want DonnyV, but it's still dogsh!t.

 

[FlyUnited]

I wouldn't count on the majors giving out js's to JB. The f/a's may want it but management could care less.

 

[oldxfr8dog]

I wouldn't count on the majors giving out js's to JB. The f/a's may want it but management could care less.

Baseless rumor, but I heard AA is preparing to offer JB FAs jumpseats as a result of the change.
Like I said, unverified.

 

[SWA tech]

Maybe the 121 aircraft mechanics community can start some type of jumpsets in the cabin agreement also. After all we do have a FAA airmen's licences.

 

[FlyUnited]

That would be great to see happen. Hard to see happen, but great to see.

 

[Dizel8]

I wouldn't count on the majors giving out js's to JB. The f/a's may want it but management could care less.

I heard that LUV and AA signed agreements for their F/A's, so who knows, maybe there will be a change like what we have seen with most airlines and unlimited jumpseats.

Certainly F/A's do a different job, but many gets "transplanted" just like pilots and for morale, if they cannot get a raise or continues to have concessions forced down their throats, like pilots, then maybe this will at least make the job slightly less onerous.

 

[PSPFAWILL]

AA does have a reciprocal F/A agreement with WN.

 

[FlyUnited]

I'm with you Diezel.

I've seen many f/a's trying to commute to work who could care less if they get on. Most have the attitude of "if I don't get on my commuter, I'll go home and spend time with the family". You'd think the airline would try to make it easier for them to get to work considering that the f/a's covered by the union are quite difficult to fire. The only ones who ever seem freaked out over not making the commute are the new hires.

AA did sign an agreement with WN. That's a very nice start. Now it needs to expand to all the majors.

 

[J32driver]

I ride on AA almost exclusively to get back and forth to work. A FA told me a couple weeks ago there was a movement forming to petition AA management for a reciprical with JetBlue.

All the AA guys/gals... thanks again for the rides!

 

[WestSide]

It looks like the answer is "yes", but do offline pilots still have unlimited jumpseats on JB?

 

[Caveman]

It looks like the answer is "yes", but do offline pilots still have unlimited jumpseats on JB?

Yes. That policy has not changed......yet. More and more JetBlue pilots are getting fed up with other carriers leaving us at the gate while they depart with empty seats and yet their pilots enjoy unlimited jumpseating on us. There is no official or unofficial movement to demand exact reciprocity, but the grumbling is sloooowly getting louder. Time will tell.

 

[ATR-DRIVR]

Was at the gate in ATL yesterday waiting for a CMR flt to JFK. Delta Captain, me and another JB F/O waiting for the flight. Kept delaying it and the DAL Capt checked the schedule and said the next LGA flt was wide open and was going to go over there. We decided to head over also just realizing that they only take one J/S. Got to the gate, the Capt was telling the agents - very nice ladies - that he was pretty sure they flowthrough with B6 and that he would sit in back to get us on! They signed us up and sent us down. Crew was great and welcomed us both and off we went!
Thanks Mike and Whip!!!

 

[Sailpilot]

Yes. That policy has not changed......yet. More and more JetBlue pilots are getting fed up with other carriers leaving us at the gate while they depart with empty seats and yet their pilots enjoy unlimited jumpseating on us. There is no official or unofficial movement to demand exact reciprocity, but the grumbling is sloooowly getting louder. Time will tell.

I just had to buy an ID90 (Not a Pass and expensive) in ATL for Delta commuting home. Talked to the CA before purchasing the ticket, no dice. An Airtran guy was first and the 737-800 had 83 seats open.

FLL-ATL had 4 jumpseaters (2 gulfstream, 1 united and me JB). Thanks for the ride to that capt (explained he was a commuter). I support charging Delta pilots after the first 2 jumpseater(A320) OR 1 Jumpseat(E190) is taken. True Recip agreement! Thanks to ALL the other airlines for joining the UNLIMITED jumpseat policy.

Quick note: I had the privilege of jumping on UAL out of ORD for a month (nice break from the Delta commute). The UAL guys are great and thanks for making that commute so easy on your TED aircraft.

 

[FlyUnited]

The UAL f/a's always try to make ALL our jumpseaters feel welcome.

As far as getting UAL to change the policy for j/s. The contract would need some serious paycuts for UAL to consider it (imho).....since the f/a's already took some serious haircuts (2 to be exact), I don't see how that would be possible. The UAL f/a's in NY already are eligible for food stamps....and that was BEFORE the first paycut. There is just no more money for these people to give up.

 

[localizer11]

Yes. That policy has not changed......yet. More and more JetBlue pilots are getting fed up with other carriers leaving us at the gate while they depart with empty seats and yet their pilots enjoy unlimited jumpseating on us. There is no official or unofficial movement to demand exact reciprocity, but the grumbling is sloooowly getting louder. Time will tell.

Agreed

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

I just had to buy an ID90 (Not a Pass and expensive) in ATL for Delta commuting home. Talked to the CA before purchasing the ticket, no dice. An Airtran guy was first and the 737-800 had 83 seats open.

FLL-ATL had 4 jumpseaters (2 gulfstream, 1 united and me JB). Thanks for the ride to that capt (explained he was a commuter). I support charging Delta pilots after the first 2 jumpseater(A320) OR 1 Jumpseat(E190) is taken. True Recip agreement! Thanks to ALL the other airlines for joining the UNLIMITED jumpseat policy.

Quick note: I had the privilege of jumping on UAL out of ORD for a month (nice break from the Delta commute). The UAL guys are great and thanks for making that commute so easy on your TED aircraft.

So what do you suggest Sail???

Should that DL pilot who left you behind break the rules out of his Flight Ops Manual??? We as pilots don't make the rules, we follow them. Grow up and act like someone who's jumpseated before unlimited......If it's full, MOVE ON.

Delta pilots couldn't even jumpseat on their OWN airplane until 1996......if you don't like the setup, then get with your touchy-feely pseudo-union study group and change it to exactly what you recommended.......odds are more JB people would lose out on rides then Delta.

Better yet, save your strength for the Transcon changes you people are crying about changing......you are going to need it!!!!

 

[Sailpilot]

So what do you suggest Sail???

Should that DL pilot who left you behind break the rules out of his Flight Ops Manual??? We as pilots don't make the rules, we follow them. Grow up and act like someone who's jumpseated before unlimited......If it's full, MOVE ON.

Delta pilots couldn't even jumpseat on their OWN airplane until 1996......if you don't like the setup, then get with your touchy-feely pseudo-union study group and change it to exactly what you recommended.......odds are more JB people would lose out on rides then Delta.

Better yet, save your strength for the Transcon changes you people are crying about changing......you are going to need it!!!!

To quote one of the 4 Delta pilots going from JFK to BOS, " half of our New York pilot list lives in BOS." Might want to run your input bye them before you jump to conclusions about who loses.

I know you were giving it your all with the anger typing and COOL dashed words, but I like your avatar. Somebody that has my top movie as an avatar can't be as big of a @ick as you seem? Am I right or just reading the book by it's cover?

To use the word "Flowback" is whats in question. I welcome DAL pilots, to the limit that you impose on us. We offer unlimited, you have decided to limit this offer, not us. I will also state that Delta has unlimited (like all others) priviledges on us and I welcome all at this time. However, I do support a true Recip in priviledges, we offer unlimted while Delta offers limits.

Oh, and thanks for bring 1996 into this! Now I'm thinking about $265 per hour for DC-10's! I guess things change... like limited and unlimited jumpseating! Get with the times and put away your member's only jacket (you know you have one sitting in that closet just waiting).

 

[Sailpilot]

Bill,

I was sooooo wrong!

I just read some of your past post. (1996 was quoted again? Do we have I love the 90's hang ups?)

I was so wrong.... You ARE a @ick!

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

Bill,

I was sooooo wrong!

I just read some of your past post. (1996 was quoted again? Do we have I love the 90's hang ups?)

I was so wrong.... You ARE a @ick!

Shows what a real TOOLBAG you are by wasting your time re-reading old posts.........good attitude ya got there, keep it up and maybe you can change the world with your posts.........if there was an award for largest Jackhole with a small-man problem, it would be ALL YOURS......