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TOKYO (Dow Jones)--Mitsubishi Aircraft Corp. said Friday that it had secured a second customer for its planned regional jet, with an order for up to 100 aircraft from U.S.-based Trans States Holdings.
The memorandum of understanding with Trans States follows a series of design changes that includes a new 100-seat version of the MRJ, with first deliveries to launch customer All Nippon Airways Inc. (9202.TO) expected in early 2014.
Mitsubishi Aircraft, a 64%-held subsidiary of Mitsubishi Heavy Industries Ltd. (7011.TO), is attempting to break the near-duopoly in the regional jet market held by Brazil???s Embraer and Bombardier Inc. of Canada, but faces rival new offerings from state-backed manufacturers in Russia and China.
While the U.S. remains the world???s largest market for regional jets, the sector has been hit hard by the financial plight of major network airlines, which contract most of the aircraft from third-party franchise operators. Dozens of jets have been parked in the desert as falling traffic and high fuel prices made them uneconomic even as major airlines pushed through tougher contracts with their regional partners.
Missouri-based Trans States operates flights on behalf of the United Airlines unit of UAL Corp. (UAUA) and US Airways Inc. (LCC).
The MOU includes 50 firm orders and 50 options.
The company operates two subsidiaries, Trans States Airlines and GoJet Airlines, and Mitsubishi said it is looking at all three versions of the MRJ, which range from 78 to 100 seats.
All Nippon has 15 firm orders and 10 options for the aircraft.
Mitsubishi Aircraft announced major design changes to the MRJ last month, delaying its planned first flight by six months until the second quarter of 2012.
-By Hiroyuki Kachi, Dow Jones Newswires; 813-6895-7562; Hiroyuki.Kachi@dowjones.com
(Doug Cameron contributed to this article)
 

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If scope relief is given up by ual or lcc pilots for 100 seats they might was well shut the place down and liquidate now instead of drawing out the pain. Imagine how much healthier the rest of the industry would be with that much capacity taken out of the system.
 

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If scope relief is given up by ual or lcc pilots for 100 seats they might was well shut the place down and liquidate now instead of drawing out the pain. Imagine how much healthier the rest of the industry would be with that much capacity taken out of the system.


After all of the layoffs there, 75% of the remaining pilots are 58 or over, and they are all looking for a pay raise! They don't care anymore.


Bye Bye--General Lee
 

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After all of the layoffs there, 75% of the remaining pilots are 58 or over, and they are all looking for a pay raise! They don't care anymore.


Bye Bye--General Lee


General,
DAL contract 2012 will be asking for SCOPE above 76 seats. You being a "wide body F/O", would you be willing to cave in on SCOPE and allow 76-100 seat RJ at DAL? (inquiring minds want to know)...
 

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Hi!

I'm sure he would love to have RJs at DAL. It is much better than having Mesa flying them in DAL colors! I would LOVE to fly an RJ for DAL!

cliff
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General,
DAL contract 2012 will be asking for SCOPE above 76 seats. You being a "wide body F/O", would you be willing to cave in on SCOPE and allow 76-100 seat RJ at DAL? (inquiring minds want to know)...

NO WAY. My new saying: "Relief for Scope? HELL NOPE."

Bye Bye--General Lee
 

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Hi!

I'm sure he would love to have RJs at DAL. It is much better than having Mesa flying them in DAL colors! I would LOVE to fly an RJ for DAL!

cliff
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Correct Cliff, we would welcome RJ's 76-100 seats at mainline...flown by mainline DAL pilots for mainline wages and nothing less. The days of buying scope relief for 777 rate increases is O. V. E. R....OVER. Without exception every DAL pilot I have had this conversation with feels this way...including 76ER captains who realistically could hold the 777 the last 5 or so years before retiring. The other HUGE realization from the top down is that scope also can and will impact the widebodies. Anyone who doubts this take one look at the current mess with UAL/Air Lingus, et al.

I could care less if they give me a C2K wages + inflation and cola.....if I am scoped out of a job the wage does NOT matter.

Rant over, I need a drink but can't on my meds....this sucks....
 

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yeah but i want to go back to work so i have to do what the doc says until they cut everything out!
 

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Is that what you said the last time you voted for scope relief?

You mean when the BK judge was in the backround. Yeah, I bet you told your divorce judge that your wife couldn't get your house. How did that work out? I bet the divorce judge told you to stuff it. Same effect in BK. And the thing is, you KNOW IT. These days, thanks to refinancing, we have plenty of cash and we are doing things with it (like tempting AA with offers for parts of JAL). Our next contract should have lots of improvements. Bank on it!


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Maybe too little too late.

Not really. 50 seaters are getting parked, and scope these days also means code sharing with other legacies or even INTL airlines. It is very important overall, and I think we are all very motivated. As I just stated in the previous post, a BK judge helped with the last vote, and I really don't see that happening again. I've got my 10 fingers, 10 toes, and 3 legs crossed!

Bye Bye--General Lee
 

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I think this is about replacement of RAH....contract with UAL ends in 2014. The ability to get larger aircraft is secondary conditioned on UAL relaxing scope.....which I can't imagine happening.

CD
 

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Thats not even close to accurate.

Sorry, 85%. United is now full of old people. The junior pilots have 12 years with the company, and they are at the bottom. The guys at CAL are salivating.

Bye Bye--General Lee
 

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Correct Cliff, we would welcome RJ's 76-100 seats at mainline...flown by mainline DAL pilots for mainline wages and nothing less. The days of buying scope relief for 777 rate increases is O. V. E. R....OVER. Without exception every DAL pilot I have had this conversation with feels this way...including 76ER captains who realistically could hold the 777 the last 5 or so years before retiring. The other HUGE realization from the top down is that scope also can and will impact the widebodies. Anyone who doubts this take one look at the current mess with UAL/Air Lingus, et al.

I could care less if they give me a C2K wages + inflation and cola.....if I am scoped out of a job the wage does NOT matter.

Rant over, I need a drink but can't on my meds....this sucks....

I don't believe for one minute that the person who wrote the above posting is a pilot. The only pilots I have known since 2002 are the biggest bunch of sellouts and sissies who don't stand up for a damn thing!!! The only attitude I hear from them is that a lousy job with 50% pay cuts is better than no job! Well I disagree, because there are some things worth standing up for, and all we need is greater than 50% of the pilot workforces around the country to stand firm with the above quote, and we may bring this job back to where it should be!

But management will hold just a big enough carrot in front of just enough pilots to get them to fold like origami, and voila... unlimited 70-90-100 seaters at the puss filled regionals! And the sad thing is that it wouldn't take anything even close to C2K wages to make it happen. Sad but true! C2K wages plus 2.5% inflation from 2001 would put 777 CA's at 400 grand and FO's over 200 grand. And no pilot group would turn that down. You all will sellout the future of the profession for your own personal greed.
 

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Sorry, 85%. United is now full of old people. The junior pilots have 12 years with the company, and they are at the bottom. The guys at CAL are salivating.

Bye Bye--General Lee

Gen-

Zed called, and said he was "salivating" at the notion that you will soon don your "gimp suit" again and show up at his doorstep in LBB bearing candy and flowers.

-You are one sick pup!
 

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Zed called, and said he was "salivating" at the notion that you will soon don your "gimp suit" again and show up at his doorstep in LBB bearing candy and flowers.

-You are one sick pup!

crj:
1985 called. They want their joke back.
You are one big ****************************** bag!
 

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Fake announcement people~
 
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