Paper logbook required to interview?

[EngineOut]

What are some of your thoughts and experiences interviewing with a printout of an electronic logbook?

I've been using one for two years and just spent 7 hours last night transferring it all to my paper logbook because I've been told by several people that the paper logbook is required to interview with anyone. WTF? I can't imagine everyone who uses an e-log spends the time to do what I did last night.

What's the point of an e-log then? I understand the endorsements, I guess, but why not rip those out and put them in a binder with the e-log prints?

What do you all do?

Thanks.

 

[152SIC]

I use logbook pro and a standard 3-ring binder. I export the spreadsheet data from logbook pro into adobe.

Before exporting the information to adobe I "customise" the columns so that the size looks ok.

After exporting the information, adobe will allow you to resize the pages to fit onto a standard 8.5x11 sheet of paper. Then use a hole puncher and throw them into the binder.

With 5000+ hours, it took me very little time to accomplish this. And the last interview I did (at America West,) worked out fine with this print out.

 

[Boris Badenov]

I also use logbook pro, and have for years. I brought my paper logs to my last interview (Flight Express), but they didn't even glance at them. Printout was sufficient there.

 

[texarkana]

Friend of mine used logbook pro in a ups interview, got the job....

 

[EngineOut]

Do you guys keep your paper logbooks updated?

 

[Cappy]

Electronic or paper...it shouldn't matter. According to the FAR's they only need be accurate. I started logging by the month after I hit the 7-8000 hr mark. You only need to log per flight if you are seeking an additional rating (Instrument, ATP, etc.) and the time needs to be broken down.

Use logbook pro, use a written logbook, it shouldn't matter as it hasn't for myself. I've not been turned down for any job ever. Just make sure the times add up. I use PIC+SIC+student time(pre-private)= Total. Never a question.

Good luck.

Mike

 

[gringo]

I update my paper logbook, but I only put in monthly totals now.

 

[Turkey Shoot]

Do you guys keep your paper logbooks updated?

I occasionally print mine out and have them bound and through away the old one. Problem with the electronic logbooks, if you hard drive gets fried, so does your logbook. I have a paper log, computer log and all the info from APDL on my PDA which hold about the rest of my career with the memory card.

Also, everytime you do a 8710, it's a affidavit of your time which you can use to back yourself up.

Always plan for the worst. It's a basic pilot tenant.

 

[a&p cfiguy]

I regually back up my logbook pro file onto a disk, and every now and then email the file to myself. I use a pocket pc and log my flights right after then happen, then at the end of the day, plug it into my computer and upload the info. Every now and then I still write into my paper logbook, but I think i'll stop doing that soon. Really no need.

 

[sstearns2]

If you use a electronic logbook and print it out, be sure to sign each page. I printed up a set of sheets that said something like 'I certify the above to be true and correct' on the bottom and printed the logbook onto those sheets and signed each of them. A lot of people don't view it as a real logbook unless you've signed each page.

Scott

 

[hbrow15]

when I was hired at Expressjet I actually took both the Jepp and my printed logbook but I was not sure which one they used. So I had the same question when i flew with one of our Captians that does the hiring, according to him as long as the last page is notorized the printed logbook is good to go.

 

[Denizen]

Notary?

Why have a Notary Public Sign it? What good will that do?

For that matter why sign each page of your logbook? Required?

Electronic logbook print out or paper logbook, what is the difference?

 

[Cody_V]

The only time I ran into an issue with electronic logs is an interview w/ Cathay Pacific. During the first round, they said the elogs were no problem and they even commented on how neat they looked, but they said if I were invited to Hong Kong for round two then they would only accept tabular logs. This took forever to transfer seeeing as I log by leg!

 

[DCAA320]

Biotch, u only have 1500 hours, how long could it take

 

[coltsfn8888]

If you use the electronic logs can you still count the time your instructor was required to sign your logbook?

 

[Cody_V]

Well, you can either have your instructor sign the print out or keep a paper log for flights that require signoffs and reference the sign-off in the paperlog in the elog remarks section.

 

[colejer]

I went to the southwest airlines open house a few months ago and this question was asked. They accept both electronic and manual. They did not have a preference. They also mentioned to have important dates (captain upgrade, etc..) marked, so they can easily go through your logbook.

 

[EngineOut]

Biotch, u only have 1500 hours, how long could it take

Are you talkin' to me? ME?

I mean: Really? Are you talkin' to me?

 

[canyonblue737]

I used Logbook Pro for my SWA interview and they loved it. I did have it printed and bound in Jepp style logbook format, not 8x11. That way the print out "looked" like a conventional logbook.

 

[Cody_V]

Did you have it bound or do it yourself? If you had it bound, who did it for you?

 

[It will roll]

Logbook

Quick sidenote question. When logging flight time at an airline, is it better to group the days flights in one line on a page (ex. 5.5 total) or to log it flight by flight (ex. 1.2 total)? That could get annoying when I have my 9 leg day next week... Does it matter? I do it the one day per line method, but in the remarks section I write the dep-arrival apt, if there was an A/C swap and who the CA was. Any opinions?

 

[Cody_V]

I've always logged leg by leg since I started and I just couldn't break that habit. It maybe a bit anal and a waste of time, but I still log leg by leg, and you are right, 10 leg days are a pain. I would just try to stay consistsant no matter which way you go. I know a couple guys that log an entire month on one line, but that's a bit excessive in my opinion.

 

[Way2Broke]

I've always logged leg by leg since I started and I just couldn't break that habit. It maybe a bit anal and a waste of time, but I still log leg by leg, and you are right, 10 leg days are a pain. I would just try to stay consistsant no matter which way you go. I know a couple guys that log an entire month on one line, but that's a bit excessive in my opinion.

I do 14-20 legs a day, six days a week. I am not going to use a page and a half of my logbook for each day, so I do it as a daily log. As far as keeping it consistant, I only find it necessary to be consistant per the operator I work for.

 

[Cody_V]

Wow! that is a lot of trips! I would do the same thing if I were you. If you logged that many legs per week, a potential employer would probably not hire you based on an obsesive/compulsive disorder!