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I will give you a list of destinations that would be available NONSTOP to Youngstown:
ATLANTA/CINCY
VEGAS/MYRTLE BEACH
VEGAS/ORLANDO
DULLES

I think you can figure the airlines out now.. And one of those sets is REALLY REALLY Close. And trust me my source is as high as you can get without talking with the director of aviation at the airport.

8 million people within 1 hour of the airport as well..

I'm 23 anyways. Not that young.
 
Coming soon!

Nonstop service from Beaver County Airport to Youngstown with Saturday service to Johnstown PA via Capital Airlines brand new 19 passenger Metroliner!
 
Man, this thread is great!


It brings back memories of when I was learning to fly and pumping gas at the little FBO at home. We had this reallllly wierd guy who would hang out at the airport all the time. He was completely obsessed with the airport and anything remotely connected to it. He would constantly speculate on which airline would be starting service soon (it was a 4400' strip in western NC in a county with a population around 30,000. A Navajo was a big deal!).

This unhealthy obsession filled the void left by a lack of friends, or even social acquaintences. Eventually he got so wierd and creepy we kept a firearm in the office just in case he snapped one day. This guy reminds me of him.

Really, if you dont hang out on Airliners.net, you should. You would love it over there. There's lots of talk about which airline is best based on their paint schemes and that sort of thing, instead of more realistic things like longevity, safety, employee relations, etc. It really sounds like your cup of tea.
 
Flywrite said:
Really, if you dont hang out on Airliners.net, you should. You would love it over there. There's lots of talk about which airline is best based on their paint schemes and that sort of thing, instead of more realistic things like longevity, safety, employee relations, etc. It really sounds like your cup of tea.

Heyas Fly,

Yea, I know exactly what you mean. I'm not really sure where this obsession comes from. I suppose that the superficially regimented nature of the airline industry/travel really appeals to some psychological profiles. You know, park-->get ticket/check bags--->stand in line again--->goto gate--->stand in line again---->get seat---->stand in line again--->get on plane---->stand in line again and so on and so forth. Very ordered, very sequential, lots of colors, meaningful signs and a vaugely military nature to it.

You would think that anyone with such an obsession would be into something where you could actually participate, like RC aircraft or heck, even save up for a month a take some dual, but I've talked to a couple of airliners.net types that just give me a blank stare when I suggest something like that. Yet these same people will keep detailed notebooks of N numbers, aircraft types, paint jobs and the like.

You see the same thing, although in smaller numbers, with trainspotters.

I'm not saying its wrong or anything, but to me, its like watching golf on TV and making a note of who has what clubs in their bag, when you don't even play the game.

Nu
 
Thanks for the study break YNG guy. This thread is hysterical! Nobody does it better then NE Ohio when it comes to bright visions of the future.
 
A huge thank you

to YNGAirport. I had my cheese grater out and was just about to remove my "YOUNGSTOWN FOREVER!!!" tattoo when I read this thread and became inspired.

Even in BMA can't afford to buy the gas your inspiration will surely send them skyward!
 
After a long, hard, hot, tour the past 5 days, it was nice to see that this thread is still alive. The comic relief is much, much better than cold beer.......WAIT, what am I saying? I think I'll have both. :D



Remember Kids, drink you milk and FLY YNG!!!
 
No harm done in Pan Am mess



Last month, Pan Am Clipper Connection announced it would offer regular commercial flights from Trumbull County to Aguadilla, Puerto Rico; San Juan, Puerto Rico; St. Petersburg-Clearwater, Fla; Orlando-Sanford, Fla.; and Newburgh, N.Y.

Last week, Pan Am halted its plans to come to the airport when it learned local officials were pulling a $250,000 Federal Aviation Administration grant to publicize Pan Am Clipper Connection's Service in the wake of a Department of Transportation official's request for a probe. Karan Bhatia, assistant secretary for aviation and internal affairs at the DOT, sent a letter to the inspector general asking for an investigation of Pan Am.
Pan Am had only three jets to service an ambitious and expanding flight schedule - including Youngstown-Warren.

The Airline Pilots Association had challenged Pan Am's fitness to operate when the airline sought to have more planes certified. The pilot's union contended that a Pan Am officer had submitted a falsified bond to the ALPA in an unrelated labor case.

The Western Reserve Port Authority, which operates the Youngstown-Warren Regional Airport, decided to pull the marketing grant after Pan Am turned down its request last week for a performance bond to guarantee service.

The news of the latest failure to bring a commercial airline to the Youngstown-Warren Regional Airport has only given some longtime skeptics of the airport more fuel. We have disagreed in the past and do so again.

Vacation Express halted flights at the airport after operating for only five months in 2004.

But two important events transpired for this area by having that airline in place for those five months. First, lawmakers were able to apply for and receive a federal grant, and secondly, it probably helped to keep the Youngstown Air Reserve Station open. In May, the Pentagon announced that the Youngstown Air Reserve Station will not close as part of the Defense Department's Base Realignment and Closure procedure. The station depends on the airport's runway and services.

Chuck Johnson, hired by Rubenstein and Associates as the airport's director of development, said he didn't view the Pan Am matter as another strike against the port authority in the court of public opinion. "I don't think this is a strike,'' Johnson said of pulling the marketing. "We prevented a strike.''

We agree. There was no harm, no foul in this venture. And officials still are pursuing other airlines led by the public relations firm of Rubenstein and Associates.

What Rubenstein and port authority officials need to learn from these two ventures is twofold: more diligence is needed in researching a company and checking into its stability and being too anxious or impatient to get a carrier can be dangerous. There are a lot of third-rate companies that could see a $250,000 grant dangling and patch up an old plane and call itself a carrier service.

We have long said and continue to support the fact that the regional airport is a key to future economic development. It is easy for some people who have chosen to view their glasses as half empty rather than half full and close the doors and call it a failure. We see the airport as a bargaining chip for future development.

Officials need to make better decisions and be more diligent in checking the backgrounds of prospective carriers. To say the airport is finished because of these two failed adventures, however, is premature and lacks vision.
 

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