PAKISTANI sues JetBlue! WOW!!!

[Flyer1015]

Me too. Why don't you a$$es step up to the plate? Take your cult (religion) back.

Did you sleep through 9/11?
If the world had a colon, Mecca would be the entrance.

Muslims, may they burn in hell

Listen to you all !

You're using the sad excuse of 9/11 and the actions of 19 men to collectively group an entire religion of 1.4 billion people as terrorists.

Yes, there are many muslim extremists, but it's only a few percentage of the 1.4 billion muslims who are like that.


In America, there are Muslim doctors, lawyers, engineers, teachers, businessmen, airline pilots, flight attendants, mechanics, and any other trade you can imagine.

There are Muslims serving in the US Air Froce, Army, Navy and the Marines.

There are US Muslim armed services members who are serving our country by fighting the war in Iraq and Afghanistan right now, just so your bigoted a$$es can go to bed safely tonight.



Grow up, people!

 

[brainhurts]

Listen to you all !

You're using the sad excuse of 9/11 and the actions of 19 men to collectively group an entire religion of 1.4 billion people as terrorists.

Yes, there are many muslim extremists, but it's only a few percentage of the 1.4 billion muslims who are like that.


In America, there are Muslim doctors, lawyers, engineers, teachers, businessmen, airline pilots, flight attendants, mechanics, and any other trade you can imagine.

There are Muslims serving in the US Air Froce, Army, Navy and the Marines.

There are US Muslim armed services members who are serving our country by fighting the war in Iraq and Afghanistan right now, just so your bigoted a$$es can go to bed safely tonight.



Grow up, people!

Well, it would be great if they would step up to the plate.

 

[Flyer1015]

Well, it would be great if they would step up to the plate.

Truth of the matter is, you won't see anything like that on the US media.


You just won't.

Why should Fox (or even CNN) waste their airtime showing an Imam who calls for an end to radical Islam and extremism ?


They just won't. Right now, they "have" to show the radical terrorists blowing stuff up, and extremists chanting anti-American things.


An imam could send a request to Fox News to go on air so he could get openly speak out against radicals/extremist muslims, but he won't be allowed to. Fox wouldn't waste their time with that.



Next, you need to realize that these radical terrorists/extremists, would want you as a Christian American, dead, just as fast as they would a Muslim American.

There were Muslims in WTC who died on 9/11. These fanatics don't care.



I honestly don't think it would make any big difference if CAIR got on TV tomorrow and denounced all radical Musilm terrorists/extremists.
Nor would it make any difference if hundreds of Imams also got on TV and denounced all radical/fanatical muslims.

If anything, it would make bin Laden hate America even more, and if anything, they would recruit even faster.

 

[VABB]

Listen to you all !

You're using the sad excuse of 9/11 and the actions of 19 men to collectively group an entire religion of 1.4 billion people as terrorists.

Yes, there are many muslim extremists, but it's only a few percentage of the 1.4 billion muslims who are like that.


In America, there are Muslim doctors, lawyers, engineers, teachers, businessmen, airline pilots, flight attendants, mechanics, and any other trade you can imagine.

There are Muslims serving in the US Air Froce, Army, Navy and the Marines.

There are US Muslim armed services members who are serving our country by fighting the war in Iraq and Afghanistan right now, just so your bigoted a$$es can go to bed safely tonight.



Grow up, people!

Yes, there are many muslim extremists, but it's only a few percentage of the 1.4 billion muslims who are like that.

Since few usually equates to the number 3, let's assume that 3% of the 1.4 billion muslims are extremists. 3% of 1.4 billion equates to 42 million. That's not a big deal to you??

There are Muslims serving in the US Air Froce, Army, Navy and the Marines.

Wasn't it just a few years ago that a muslim serving in the Air Force killed some of his fellow airmen in the name of islam?

You're using the sad excuse of 9/11 and the actions of 19 men to collectively group an entire religion of 1.4 billion people as terrorists.

How about the USS Cole? How about the Madrid train bombings? How about the London subway attacks? How about the train bombings in India? What do they all have in common? Their violence originates in islam.

 

[Flyer1015]

42 million is too high, I should have said a lower percentage amount. Maybe 1%, if not lower.

Wasn't it just a few years ago that a muslim serving in the Air Force killed some of his fellow airmen in the name of islam?

A couple armed services member raped an Iraqi 15 year old in the name of "horny-ness" and then shot and killed her, after of course murdering the parents and the sibling.

You can always point at any large group, and find an extremely rare case.

How about the USS Cole? How about the Madrid train bombings? How about the London subway attacks? How about the train bombings in India? What do they all have in common? Their violence originates in islam.

The violence here is political, not just religious.

USS Cole was attacked because they didn't like a US warship stationed in their own homeland.

Al-Qaeda had announced that they would attack any ally to the US in the war against Iraq, so England being ally #1, they got attacked.

Notice that countries that leave the rest of the world alone, like, Brazil, Argentina, Norway, Finland, Sweden, Chile, etc. don't have any terrorist problems.


As for your examples give above, how about:

How about Air India 747 bombing in the mid 80s? Sikh terrorists, not Muslims.

How about the Iranian Airbus shot down over the Gulf? Mistake, whoops.


How about Israel "accidently" bombing one of our own US Navy ships?

 

[Blue Dude]

Yes, there are many muslim extremists, but it's only a few percentage of the 1.4 billion muslims who are like that.

Then they should have no trouble taking back their religion to keep the twisted few from smearing the name of Allah. Unfortunately, they have remained by and large silent. Either they are intimidated by the lunatic, violent fringe, or they remain silent knowing that the violent fringe observes the Quran better than they do. Either way, we have a problem and can't count on the silent majority to clean their own house. Once again, we have to do it for them and be despised for it. Since we can't distinguish between the silent but peaceful majority and the violent minority (and those who harbor the same), we are faced with degrading our own way of life by curtailing civil liberties or we can expect having our way of life degraded for us by living in perpetual fear of the next domestic terrorist attack. What's right? I don't know, but I will say that in times of national emergency, civil liberties have been curtailed for some or all the people and thus we survived. Sometimes we went too far, but I think the current thought that our way of life isn't worth that price is going way too far in the other direction. PC will kill this country more surely than any external threat.

We can fight or we can give up entirely and subject ourselves and our children to dhimmitude. I don't think there's a middle ground anymore. For sure we won't get any quarter from the violent fringe. They aren't going to leave us alone and this is just the beginning.

 

[scoreboard]

Truth of the matter is, you won't see anything like that on the US media.


You just won't.

Why should Fox (or even CNN) waste their airtime showing an Imam who calls for an end to radical Islam and extremism ?


They just won't. Right now, they "have" to show the radical terrorists blowing stuff up, and extremists chanting anti-American things.


An imam could send a request to Fox News to go on air so he could get openly speak out against radicals/extremist muslims, but he won't be allowed to. Fox wouldn't waste their time with that.



Next, you need to realize that these radical terrorists/extremists, would want you as a Christian American, dead, just as fast as they would a Muslim American.

There were Muslims in WTC who died on 9/11. These fanatics don't care.



I honestly don't think it would make any big difference if CAIR got on TV tomorrow and denounced all radical Musilm terrorists/extremists.
Nor would it make any difference if hundreds of Imams also got on TV and denounced all radical/fanatical muslims.

If anything, it would make bin Laden hate America even more, and if anything, they would recruit even faster.

Not what he is talking about ace, saying stop, and actually stepping up to the plate and making it stop are two very deadly differences. You will probably not see any part of the Islamic mainstream ever step up and take care of business. WHY? Gods will. Bullshiittee.

 

[VABB]

42 million is too high, I should have said a lower percentage amount. Maybe 1%, if not lower.




A couple armed services member raped an Iraqi 15 year old in the name of "horny-ness" and then shot and killed her, after of course murdering the parents and the sibling.

You can always point at any large group, and find an extremely rare case.






The violence here is political, not just religious.

USS Cole was attacked because they didn't like a US warship stationed in their own homeland.

Al-Qaeda had announced that they would attack any ally to the US in the war against Iraq, so England being ally #1, they got attacked.

Notice that countries that leave the rest of the world alone, like, Brazil, Argentina, Norway, Finland, Sweden, Chile, etc. don't have any terrorist problems.


As for your examples give above, how about:

How about Air India 747 bombing in the mid 80s? Sikh terrorists, not Muslims.

How about the Iranian Airbus shot down over the Gulf? Mistake, whoops.


How about Israel "accidently" bombing one of our own US Navy ships?

42 million is too high, I should have said a lower percentage amount. Maybe 1%, if not lower.

So when the numbers "look too high" you just say let's lower the percentage?

A couple armed services member raped an Iraqi 15 year old in the name of "horny-ness" and then shot and killed her, after of course murdering the parents and the sibling.

Ah, but this topic wasn't centered around our service members now, was it? I believe the topic was islam and it's violence. Now, let's look at the facts one more time. In 2003, a muslim serving in the Air Force murdered his fellow airmen in the name islam. Correct????

You can always point at any large group, and find an extremely rare case.

The problem with your above statement is that violence and islam go hand-in-hand like wet and water. Violence (terrorism) is hardly a rare case with islam.

The violence here is political, not just religious.

USS Cole was attacked because they didn't like a US warship stationed in their own homeland.

Al-Qaeda had announced that they would attack any ally to the US in the war against Iraq, so England being ally #1, they got attacked.

And what are the roots of their political agenda? Ah yes, the koran.

Notice that countries that leave the rest of the world alone, like, Brazil, Argentina, Norway, Finland, Sweden, Chile, etc. don't have any terrorist problems.

Notice that the above countries listed are not world powers either.

As for your examples give above, how about:

How about Air India 747 bombing in the mid 80s? Sikh terrorists, not Muslims.

How about the Iranian Airbus shot down over the Gulf? Mistake, whoops.


How about Israel "accidently" bombing one of our own US Navy ships?

Your first example: sure, there are other groups out there who practice terrorism. But, not nearly on the scale as muslims do. Sikh's were making a political statement, muslims are practicing a violent ideology.

Your second and third examples are accidents, not intentional acts of violence.

 

[FCNelson]

First off, I doubt any airline would tell the applicant why they werent hired.

Second, I do know of a former ACA/I-air pilot that is of the "muslim" background and got hired at JB. (he was an instructor with dugan).

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You are doubtlessly talking about the little protege of one of the big-time hatchet men in the ACA CRJ program.

Unfortunately I had no veto power over who they hire as instructors (unlike the people who pass Stage I Interview and have names posted in CP's office)

He is already carving out a name for himself as a dunce in the training dept. He may be fired soon from what I hear, due mostly to sheer incompetence.

 

[GFunk20]

VABB, read the Quran before you freakin' have the nerves to say its an ideology of Islam.

You know darn well that people use religion as an excuse for their actions. They have for years and will continue doing so.

Should we profile all white christians cause of Timothy McVeigh and the KKK members? I dont think so.

If the story above is true, then JB screwed over this guy and deserves to pay out the penalty.

 

[VABB]

VABB, read the Quran before you freakin' have the nerves to say its an ideology of Islam.

You know darn well that people use religion as an excuse for their actions. They have for years and will continue doing so.

Should we profile all white christians cause of Timothy McVeigh and the KKK members? I dont think so.

If the story above is true, then JB screwed over this guy and deserves to pay out the penalty.

I have read it, and the quran clearly teaches conversion by the sword.

You mention Timothy McVeigh and the KKK. Fine, but neither one of them have ever stated that they were committing violence in the name of the Bible. In fact, Jesus very emphatically teaches NOT to use violence, so anyone who commits an act of violence and says they are following the Bible are actually contradicting it.

The same cannot be said for islam.

 

[Fins Up]

Did you sleep through 9/11?

Actually I flew a group of FEMA workers from Puerto Rico to Pennsylvania on the 11th. Pretty quiet flying that night. My wife worked in the towers until two weeks before the attack. I'm well aware of what happened.

I just don't agree with bashing the whole religion because of acts done by the misguided who choose to defame what is supposed to be a peaceful religion. I've spent time in Iraq, Afghanistan, Bahrain and Qatar. They're not all out to get us. Every race/relgion/country has it's share of scumbags.

 

[Jonny Sacko]

lunatic, violent fringe, or they remain silent knowing that the violent fringe . .

What the hell, man, I keep hearing songs while reading those words. Please don't use those together, now it's stuck in my head YOU BASTARD!!!!!!


Lunitic Fringe, I know your out there.....DAMNIT DAMN YOU

Next is the Violent Fems. Why can't I get just one BEEEPPP

ADD IT UP ADD IT UP


I hope it's stuck in your head now too. Take that.!!!!

 

[Flyer1015]

Not what he is talking about ace, saying stop, and actually stepping up to the plate and making it stop are two very deadly differences. You will probably not see any part of the Islamic mainstream ever step up and take care of business. WHY? Gods will. Bullshiittee.

How can muslims in America "make it stop?" You think there is anything they can do to get bin Laden to give up? Hahaha.

Muslims in first world, developed countries, can only speak up against radicals/fanatics.


The REAL REAL problem lies in third world countries... THIS is where the violence/extremism/fanaticism is bred. If any of the "good" muslims do step up there, they will be squashed, persecuted, or maybe even hurt/killed by the extremists/fanaticists. Besides, in these thirld world countries, even the good muslims are poor, and dont have any power.

So when the numbers "look too high" you just say let's lower the percentage?

No, it was my mistake. 3% of 1.4 billion you said was about 42 million and I didn't realize it was that high.

Realistically, there aren't 42 million Islamic terrorists. Maybe a million, maybe 5 million at most, out of 1.4 billion.

I should have said couple million, and not couple percent of 1.4 billion. Wrong word choice.

Ah, but this topic wasn't centered around our service members now, was it? I believe the topic was islam and it's violence. Now, let's look at the facts one more time. In 2003, a muslim serving in the Air Force murdered his fellow airmen in the name islam. Correct????

I brought up that situation to illustrate that in dire times, the worst comes out in people. This incident you describe, is no different. It's not like this guy was destined from day one to go and kill American soldiers.

And what are the roots of their political agenda? Ah yes, the koran.

How about the US foreign policy in the middle east? The one-sided Israel support?

Politics play a huge role, you're sadly mistaken if you think the Quran is responsible for the mess in the Middle east today! Just look at our nations foreign policy and actions in the middle east going back in the last 40-60 years, and you will see.

Notice that the above countries listed are not world powers either.

China is a world power. But they are a communist nation, and for a while now, they've kept their nose out of the middle east. They dont seem to be having any Islamic terrorist problems! It's not a matter of being a world power or not.

It's a matter of we've screwed around in the middle east way too long (oil), and now we're suffering the consequences. Not China. Not Japan. We are.

 

[VABB]

Actually I flew a group of FEMA workers from Puerto Rico to Pennsylvania on the 11th. Pretty quiet flying that night. My wife worked in the towers until two weeks before the attack. I'm well aware of what happened.

I just don't agree with bashing the whole religion because of acts done by the misguided who choose to defame what is supposed to be a peaceful religion. I've spent time in Iraq, Afghanistan, Bahrain and Qatar. They're not all out to get us. Every race/relgion/country has it's share of scumbags.

Fins Up,

This goes a lot deeper than a few people defaming a whole religion. I'm not talking off the cuff, but rather as one who has studied this topic pretty deep.

Islam does claim to be peaceful. However, islam is peaceful only to other muslims. That is the catch. There are some good books on the shelves out there written by former muslims before they left that religion. These authors lived in muslim countries and were indoctrinated with a hateful and violent teaching towards anyone who is not muslim. I highly reccomend reading one or more of them, because they are real eye-openers.

And you are right, not all muslims are out to get non-muslims. However, these muslims tend to be very casual about their religion. It's not that the extremists are fanatics, it's that they are dedicated to studying the koran for what it is. The other muslims that don't partake in the violence are the Christian equivalent of "pew warmers".