Overseas CRJ's paying 130-150K

[20sx]

I was under the impression that a pilot has to be able to speak English to operate in the airline world. I did not mean to imply that speaking English has anything to do with the skills and knowledge involved to fly an airplane.

 

[Varmint]

I was under the impression that a pilot has to be able to speak English to operate in the airline world. I did not mean to imply that speaking English has anything to do with the skills and knowledge involved to fly an airplane.

Nahhh. Russians, Chinese, Brazilians, Mexicans, and Argentinians (to name a few) all speak their own languages on frequency in their home countries. Some carriers will specifically employ English fluent pilots to be part of the operating crew in English speaking environments (ie Wasinc for JAL).

 

[GLEXPilot]

Man up boys!

 

[v1valarob]

Nahhh. Russians, Chinese, Brazilians, Mexicans, and Argentinians (to name a few) all speak their own languages on frequency in their home countries. Some carriers will specifically employ English fluent pilots to be part of the operating crew in English speaking environments (ie Wasinc for JAL).

Canada....

They love their French.

 

[GLEXPilot]

Not having to live in China=Priceless

 

[BobbyBiplane]

I am having no shortage of amusement with this thread! Do you want to make more money or not????

The American public has made it clear, they do not value your skills. If you are not willing to move to where folks have a greater value for your skills then you must accept the menial wages available in the US.

In the case I was not clear - US passengers do not care about you or your bitching. They care about price. As long as you are willing to show up for work at the current wages, there will be no resolution.

This is NOT a negotiation or Company/union issue, this is a "neighbors" issue.

I am sorry to rain on your parade but, absent a true pilot shortage,there will no increase in compensation.

Bob

 

[trip]

CRJ200 Captains needed for China Express Air.

Excellent Terms On Offer:

*Remuneration: $120,000 USD/year(net)
*Vacation: 15 days every 6 months
*Duration of Contract: 2 Years

Domicile:

Chongqing, China


Chongqing looks pretty nice, if were at a withering airline right now I'd be packing and hoping for the call.

 

[GLEXPilot]

Trip what kind of housing allowance do they give you?
Cost of living seems very cheap in china, here is a comparison between that city and NY.

http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-livin...try2=China&city1=New+York,+NY&city2=Chongqing

 

[greed]

If anyone want information on expat contracts pm me.

 

[spitfire1500]

Once you go overseas to fly...my understanding is that it's very difficult to get hired again with an airline back in the US..

 

[BobbyBiplane]

Once you go overseas to fly...my understanding is that it's very difficult to get hired again with an airline back in the US..

This is absolutely NOT true. I worked overseas in the 1990s, as have a number of my friends. All of us returned to the US and are flying for US major airlines and corporations (although the corporate guys are making significantly more money than the airline guys). Although I am close to retirement, I am not certain that this is not also true for those who leave for foreign positions today.

A former student of mine manages a large overseas corporate operation that regularly places US pilots who work there back in the US with both major airlines and large corporate operations.

Bob

 

[wrxpilot]

Once you go overseas to fly...my understanding is that it's very difficult to get hired again with an airline back in the US..

Yes, I'm sure most airlines and corporate gigs would hate to have pilots on staff that actually know a thing or two about international ops.

 

[Dumb Pilot]

Once you go overseas to fly...my understanding is that it's very difficult to get hired again with an airline back in the US..

Where on earth did you get that ridiculous idea from? In my 30 plus in this paid hobby, I have gone back and forth a couple of times during both of the downturns of the 90's and the the downturn of 01 between jobs overseas and back to jobs in the US. If anything, it makes your face to face interview more interesting to them, they always want to hear the stories.

 

[GLEXPilot]

Once you go overseas to fly...my understanding is that it's very difficult to get hired again with an airline back in the US..

Where did you hear that?

 

[propjob27]

Once you go overseas to fly...my understanding is that it's very difficult to get hired again with an airline back in the US..

This is absolutely 100% true with respect to Fedex.

FedEx will absolutely not even accept your application if you have not lived in the USA for a min of 5 consecutive years at the time you apply.

It's stupid, but it's a rule of our contract with the US Postal service.

US Military personell are the only ones exempt from this.

As for other airlines, well unless they have a similar Postal contract, I imagine it wouldn't be that big a deal.

Straight from our pilot recruitment website:

Please note that you must have the ability to obtain clearance from the United States Postal Service for handling or access to U.S. mail, which includes FBI fingerprint check, and candidate must have resided in the United States for the last five consecutive years (except for U.S. military assignments). Review our qualifications for additional information.

 

[Dumb Pilot]

This is absolutely 100% true with respect to Fedex.

FedEx will absolutely not even accept your application if you have not lived in the USA for a min of 5 consecutive years at the time you.

That is a well known fact, everyone knows it. All you need to do is demonstrate recidency status in the US, if you have a commuting job for example, your legal residency IS in the US, the fact that you work abroad is irrelevant.

 

[GLEXPilot]

I believe working overseas does not mean that you have not resided in the US, you are just commuting for work.

 

[jonjuan]

This is absolutely NOT true. I worked overseas in the 1990s, as have a number of my friends. All of us returned to the US and are flying for US major airlines and corporations (although the corporate guys are making significantly more money than the airline guys). Although I am close to retirement, I am not certain that this is not also true for those who leave for foreign positions today.

A former student of mine manages a large overseas corporate operation that regularly places US pilots who work there back in the US with both major airlines and large corporate operations.

Bob

Huh? I have many friends working at both major airlines and Fortune 500 flight departments and in 75% of them, the airline guys make significantly more than their corporate counterparts (specifically, $225K versus $150K).

 

[GLEXPilot]

Huh? I have many friends working at both major airlines and Fortune 500 flight departments and in 75% of them, the airline guys make significantly more than their corporate counterparts (specifically, $225K versus $150K).

How many years was it at an airline before they made that kind of pay?
At my company pilots start off between 150K and 175K, so total pay over a given period of time would be higher at my company even though the airline guys might top out a bit higher.

 

[BobbyBiplane]

Huh? I have many friends working at both major airlines and Fortune 500 flight departments and in 75% of them, the airline guys make significantly more than their corporate counterparts (specifically, $225K versus $150K).

I am sorry that you have corporate friends at those wages. I regularly place G550, GLEX and BBJ guys into positions at >225K here in the US and at the same in Euros in Europe (acknowledging that many are placed into management positions). The big advantage for the guys who went overseas for opportunities is the experience. I recently sent a 36 year old former international captain to a US corporation at $225000/yr + performance bonuses.

Bob