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Right now for the next hour Bill O'reilly is doing a radio piece about the AA flight last month that was stuck on the tarmac at AUS. Below is a link for a local affilate finder.

I'm listening now and he's really tearing up AA MANAGEMENT and felt sorry for the pilots and FA's. He's also calling for the AIRLINES TO BE REGULATED BY THE FEDS. So much for him being labeled a conservative!!

http://www.billoreilly.com/stationfinder
 
Right now for the next hour Bill O'reilly is doing a radio piece about the AA flight last month that was stuck on the tarmac at AUS. Below is a link for a local affilate finder.

I'm listening now and he's really tearing up AA MANAGEMENT and felt sorry for the pilots and FA's. He's also calling for the AIRLINES TO BE REGULATED BY THE FEDS. So much for him being labeled a conservative!!

http://www.billoreilly.com/stationfinder

We are regulated by the feds, just not "regulated".
 
http://money.cnn.com/2007/01/24/news/companies/airline_hearings/index.htm?source=yahoo_quote

Senators fly idea of airline re-regulation

At hearing on airline consolidation, wisdom of US Air bid for Delta is questioned, with some saying government oversight might be needed.

By Chris Isidore, CNNMoney.com senior writer
January 24 2007: 1:44 PM EST

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Senators grilled US Airways CEO Douglas Parker about his company's hostile bid for Delta Air Lines at a hearing on airline consolidation Wednesday, with even some Republicans suggesting there could be a need for re-regulation of airlines if a new round of mergers take place.
"I hear this from very conservative people in my state, they're asking for re-regulation of the airlines because of lack of service," said Sen. Ted Stevens, R-Alaska, at one point in the discussion.
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Delta CEO Gerald Grinstein.
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US Airways CEO Douglas Parker.
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Sen. Olympia Snowe, R-Maine, and Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va., also argued that smaller communities have been hurt by consolidation in the industry, and they worried that flyers in their states would face higher fares if US Air (Charts) is allowed to buy Delta (Charts).
Rockefeller said he was concerned that if the US Air-Delta deal went forward, it would prompt two more mergers between the four other large carriers - AMR Corp. (Charts) unit American Airlines and Northwest Airlines, and UAL Corp. (Charts) unit United Airlines and Continental Airlines (Charts) - with each of the resulting three carriers having more 24 percent or more of the market.
"I don't think it has to come down to that [re-regulation] but I think it is something in that order," said Rockefeller.
Sen. Byron Dorgan, D-N.D., also said he believes deregulation of the airline industry has been bad for smaller markets, saying it costs twice as much to fly to his home state from Washington than it does to fly to Los Angeles, which is twice as far away.
"I think the market system is best way of allocating goods and services but I think it needs a referee," he said. "It's quite possible the market would say that air service only exists between the major cities."
Delta CEO Gerald Grinstein, who spoke before a hearing room packed with Delta employees opposed to the deal, repeated his company's criticism of US Air's bid, saying that it would cause a sharp drop in competition and higher fares.
"Small communities will certainly suffer," he said. "With less competition, fares will increase."
And he questioned claims by US Air that the 2005 combination of America West and the then-bankrupt US Airways reduced fares.
"For every market where US Air lowered the fares, fares increased in four other markets," Grinstein argued. "This deal is bad for Delta people bad for the traveling public."
But Parker denied that the combined US Airways-Delta would raise fares, even in markets where they are now the only two major competitors.
Scoring a cheap airline ticket
"We understand if we try to charge people in places like Portland, Maine, higher than reasonable prices, they will end up driving to Manchester," he said in response to Snowe's questions.
And Parker argued that smaller communities are better served if there is more consolidation among the major carriers that have a network of hubs and spokes, such as US Air and Delta, because it will help them reduce costs and make the money they need to compete with lower fare carriers.
"For those [senators] who have small communities, which the low cost carriers will never serve, you should be very concerned about the health of the network carriers," Parker said. "We need to encourage an industry that allows network carriers the opportunity to be profitable and not have us in the continual cycle of coming back to you every five or six years to ask for help."
Parker said that while his airline and the other network carriers have done much to reduce cost and be more competitive with the low-fare carriers, there's no way to replicate the model of a Southwest Airlines in a hub-and-spoke network.
"I'd prefer to own Southwest Airlines (Charts) than US Airways," he said in response to one question. "For the record I don't own either."
Grinstein said he doesn't necessarily support re-regulation, although he argued that the Justice Department should and will block the US Air bid for Delta under existing law because it would reduce competition and raise fares in so many markets.
"US Airways-Delta must be rejected because they [US Air officials] are blatantly anti-competitive. They are in fact our largest competitor and I believe we are their largest," he said.
And Grinstein argued that if the deal does go through, it would necessarily lead to other mergers what would greatly consolidate the industry with less service.
"Are you better off with six network carriers or with three? Are you better off with more hubs or less hubs?" said Grinstein. "Approve this, and what you're approving sets such a low standard, how are you going to say 'no' to United and Continental, how are you going to say 'no' to American and Northwest. Say 'yes' to this and you will devolve into three carriers."
While a consumer advocate and a union official clearly weighed in against further airline mergers at the hearing, Andrew Steinberg, an assistant secretary in the Transportation Department, took a more neutral position in his testimony.
But Steinberg did argue against re-regulation as unworkable, and his answer to questions seemed to suggest support for mergers between the nation's largest airlines.
"History shows that most, though not all, mergers are not successful," he said. "I do believe size and scope in the airline industry are important, though.
"Contrary to what some have suggested, having fewer, healthier network carriers could end up with more service to those [smaller] communities," he added later in the hearing.
 
http://money.cnn.com/2007/01/24/news/companies/airline_hearings/index.htm?source=yahoo_quote

Senators fly idea of airline re-regulation

At hearing on airline consolidation, wisdom of US Air bid for Delta is questioned, with some saying government oversight might be needed.

By Chris Isidore, CNNMoney.com senior writer
January 24 2007: 1:44 PM EST

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Senators grilled US Airways CEO Douglas Parker about his company's hostile bid for Delta Air Lines at a hearing on airline consolidation Wednesday, with even some Republicans suggesting there could be a need for re-regulation of airlines if a new round of mergers take place.
"I hear this from very conservative people in my state, they're asking for re-regulation of the airlines because of lack of service," said Sen. Ted Stevens, R-Alaska, at one point in the discussion.
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Delta CEO Gerald Grinstein.
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US Airways CEO Douglas Parker.
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Sen. Olympia Snowe, R-Maine, and Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va., also argued that smaller communities have been hurt by consolidation in the industry, and they worried that flyers in their states would face higher fares if US Air (Charts) is allowed to buy Delta (Charts).
Rockefeller said he was concerned that if the US Air-Delta deal went forward, it would prompt two more mergers between the four other large carriers - AMR Corp. (Charts) unit American Airlines and Northwest Airlines, and UAL Corp. (Charts) unit United Airlines and Continental Airlines (Charts) - with each of the resulting three carriers having more 24 percent or more of the market.
"I don't think it has to come down to that [re-regulation] but I think it is something in that order," said Rockefeller.
Sen. Byron Dorgan, D-N.D., also said he believes deregulation of the airline industry has been bad for smaller markets, saying it costs twice as much to fly to his home state from Washington than it does to fly to Los Angeles, which is twice as far away.
"I think the market system is best way of allocating goods and services but I think it needs a referee," he said. "It's quite possible the market would say that air service only exists between the major cities."
Delta CEO Gerald Grinstein, who spoke before a hearing room packed with Delta employees opposed to the deal, repeated his company's criticism of US Air's bid, saying that it would cause a sharp drop in competition and higher fares.
"Small communities will certainly suffer," he said. "With less competition, fares will increase."
And he questioned claims by US Air that the 2005 combination of America West and the then-bankrupt US Airways reduced fares.
"For every market where US Air lowered the fares, fares increased in four other markets," Grinstein argued. "This deal is bad for Delta people bad for the traveling public."
But Parker denied that the combined US Airways-Delta would raise fares, even in markets where they are now the only two major competitors.
Scoring a cheap airline ticket
"We understand if we try to charge people in places like Portland, Maine, higher than reasonable prices, they will end up driving to Manchester," he said in response to Snowe's questions.
And Parker argued that smaller communities are better served if there is more consolidation among the major carriers that have a network of hubs and spokes, such as US Air and Delta, because it will help them reduce costs and make the money they need to compete with lower fare carriers.
"For those [senators] who have small communities, which the low cost carriers will never serve, you should be very concerned about the health of the network carriers," Parker said. "We need to encourage an industry that allows network carriers the opportunity to be profitable and not have us in the continual cycle of coming back to you every five or six years to ask for help."
Parker said that while his airline and the other network carriers have done much to reduce cost and be more competitive with the low-fare carriers, there's no way to replicate the model of a Southwest Airlines in a hub-and-spoke network.
"I'd prefer to own Southwest Airlines (Charts) than US Airways," he said in response to one question. "For the record I don't own either."
Grinstein said he doesn't necessarily support re-regulation, although he argued that the Justice Department should and will block the US Air bid for Delta under existing law because it would reduce competition and raise fares in so many markets.
"US Airways-Delta must be rejected because they [US Air officials] are blatantly anti-competitive. They are in fact our largest competitor and I believe we are their largest," he said.
And Grinstein argued that if the deal does go through, it would necessarily lead to other mergers what would greatly consolidate the industry with less service.
"Are you better off with six network carriers or with three? Are you better off with more hubs or less hubs?" said Grinstein. "Approve this, and what you're approving sets such a low standard, how are you going to say 'no' to United and Continental, how are you going to say 'no' to American and Northwest. Say 'yes' to this and you will devolve into three carriers."
While a consumer advocate and a union official clearly weighed in against further airline mergers at the hearing, Andrew Steinberg, an assistant secretary in the Transportation Department, took a more neutral position in his testimony.
But Steinberg did argue against re-regulation as unworkable, and his answer to questions seemed to suggest support for mergers between the nation's largest airlines.
"History shows that most, though not all, mergers are not successful," he said. "I do believe size and scope in the airline industry are important, though.
"Contrary to what some have suggested, having fewer, healthier network carriers could end up with more service to those [smaller] communities," he added later in the hearing.

Well if we are re-regulated will that mean retirement at 55 with a guranteed pension like our ATC buddies? Hmmmm, payraise as wel?l......Hmmmm

AAflyer
 
"I hear this from very conservative people in my state, they're asking for re-regulation of the airlines because of lack of service," said Sen. Ted Stevens, R-Alaska, at one point in the discussion.

Oh, that's rich. WTF does Uncle Ted know about conservatism? He reigns over the most socialistic, welfare-oriented, pork-barrel state in the Union.

AK has way more service than is justified, and a lot of it is paid for by us suckers in the lower 48. But I guess Stevens doesn't count Bypass Mail. Or "Life Flight" flights to ANC for Christmas shopping. What a f'ing joke.
 
Right now for the next hour Bill O'reilly is doing a radio piece about the AA flight last month that was stuck on the tarmac at AUS.
I'm listening now and he's really tearing up AA MANAGEMENT and felt sorry for the pilots and FA's. He's also calling for the AIRLINES TO BE REGULATED BY THE FEDShttp://www.billoreilly.com/stationfinder


I saw the OReilley segment and don't recall that he asked for federal regulation. He also did not rail on the pilots or flight attendants. He just seemed shocked that there was no explanation from AA management.

Way to go sky Nazis!
Just like the NWA snafu years back.
There has to be accountability for such poor customer service.
We can NOT keep people hostage on airplanes for hours and hours.
 
O'reilly has never labeled him self as conservative. The pilots are idiots for sitting there for EIGHT hours. I hear that when they finally taxied to the gate the captain was whining on the PA about possibly losing his job for letting the people off for food, water and facilities.

If you are willing to sit yourself, not to mention a plane load of people, on a tarmac for EIGHT hours because you will not exercise some authority against some ground operations jackbone, you should be flying cargo thru the wee hours. After all, cargo does not bitch, eat, piss, sh1t, or have crying babies.

You cant wait for permission from the Chief Pilot or even the CEO when things like this come up. Piss poor guys. No wonder there is a "travelers bill of rights" on the horizon. Some guys just cant think outside the manual. Probably prior training.
 
Those weird looking bus things...

I flew Southwest BHM-STL back in early December. The night before they got some sleet in STL that pretty much turned the ramp at the East Terminal into an ice rink. They had the runways clear, so our flight left on time. It was when we landed they discovered they were shutting down the ramp to attemp to de-ice it. They left us and a few other flights sitting on taxiway E between 30R and 30L for just under 4 hours until they could get us into a gate.

My question is, and I'm not blaming SWA for this: why couldn't they use those weird looking bus things, park us all where they had access to us, and get everyone off the planes and into the terminal? They were landing on 30R and departing 30L, but it was very slow; they even closed to arrivals shortly after we landed. They could have easily closed one of those runways and parked us on there for the room to maneuver the buses to us.
 
O'reilly has never labeled him self as conservative. The pilots are idiots for sitting there for EIGHT hours. I hear that when they finally taxied to the gate the captain was whining on the PA about possibly losing his job for letting the people off for food, water and facilities.

If you are willing to sit yourself, not to mention a plane load of people, on a tarmac for EIGHT hours because you will not exercise some authority against some ground operations jackbone, you should be flying cargo thru the wee hours. After all, cargo does not bitch, eat, piss, sh1t, or have crying babies.

You cant wait for permission from the Chief Pilot or even the CEO when things like this come up. Piss poor guys. No wonder there is a "travelers bill of rights" on the horizon. Some guys just cant think outside the manual. Probably prior training.

O'Reilly is about as neoconish as one gets. Are you f$cking kidding me?
 
O'reilly has never labeled him self as conservative. The pilots are idiots for sitting there for EIGHT hours. I hear that when they finally taxied to the gate the captain was whining on the PA about possibly losing his job for letting the people off for food, water and facilities.

If you are willing to sit yourself, not to mention a plane load of people, on a tarmac for EIGHT hours because you will not exercise some authority against some ground operations jackbone, you should be flying cargo thru the wee hours. After all, cargo does not bitch, eat, piss, sh1t, or have crying babies.

You cant wait for permission from the Chief Pilot or even the CEO when things like this come up. Piss poor guys. No wonder there is a "travelers bill of rights" on the horizon. Some guys just cant think outside the manual. Probably prior training.
Dead on with your post.
 
8 hrs pay on a ramp is easy money. The captain is at fault here. It doesn't matter what the circumstances are- you DO NOT TREAT PEOPLE THAT WAY!!!!
 
Monday morning heroes...

The captain is at fault here.

There were 14 diverted AA planes on the ramp at a station where AA operates 5 gates with a skeleton crew. The fault lies with many others besides the Captain. The station manager should be fired without delay. The problems at AA begin at the top.

They couldn't get fueled, they couldn't get a gate and they couldn't get anyone on the phone. This one flight that made the news wasn't the only one on the ramp, which adds to an already poor situation. Put yourself in the Captain's position and tell me exactly what you would've done...
 
There were 14 diverted AA planes on the ramp at a station where AA operates 5 gates with a skeleton crew. The fault lies with many others besides the Captain. The station manager should be fired without delay. The problems at AA begin at the top.

They couldn't get fueled, they couldn't get a gate and they couldn't get anyone on the phone. This one flight that made the news wasn't the only one on the ramp, which adds to an already poor situation. Put yourself in the Captain's position and tell me exactly what you would've done...

After food and water are gone, the lavs full, and I've exhausted other options. Pull the airplane up behind as many airplanes parked at their gates as possible, effectively blocking operations. Tell the operations people to get the people off, leave the bags on, and I'll pull the airplane away from the gate! But then again, the captain has no responsibility any more! So, it's the companies problem.
 
i wouldve ordered pizza ........ gave free drinks......and told ops we needed a gate now or im going to begin throwing one passenger out of the forward door every 10 minutes until we get one.......hows that
 
i wouldve ordered pizza ........ gave free drinks......and told ops we needed a gate now or im going to begin throwing one passenger out of the forward door every 10 minutes until we get one.......hows that


I hear you, and I had my doubts about the Captains decision, however WHO is going to bring the pizza to the airplane? The Pizza store in the airport, do they have permission to go on the ramp? The agents at our airline who are not answering our calls?


I dealt with this in SAT 2 months back with other airplanes now diverted there due to WX in DFW, heck SWA was stuck on the ramp with us as they were awaiting a creeping release time to LUV. after SCREAMING at an ops frequency who refused to acknowledge us we started back (3 hours later) Out intention was to pull up in front of the gates and see where they were going to put us. We were worried about what may happen to us, but more frustrated with the situation.

Not sure if the yelling or the fact that 1 out 9 aircraft were taxing towards the gates (with no radio comm to ops) that startled them however we got a gate.

It is hard to sit here and judge the captain, it is so easy on a message board to beat our chest and say how we would handle the situation, however I have flown on many airlines with extended delays, and no action from the crew.

I don't think the captain should have waited that long, however I do not know what options he had. It is a failure on the part of the station manager, and our overpaid mangement team that had 4 days off due to the holidays. Just like a marriage, it takes both sides to screw it up.


AAflyer
 
There were 14 diverted AA planes on the ramp at a station where AA operates 5 gates with a skeleton crew. The fault lies with many others besides the Captain. The station manager should be fired without delay. The problems at AA begin at the top.

They couldn't get fueled, they couldn't get a gate and they couldn't get anyone on the phone. This one flight that made the news wasn't the only one on the ramp, which adds to an already poor situation. Put yourself in the Captain's position and tell me exactly what you would've done...
After exhausting every normal means taxi close to the terminal, Park the brakes, lower the stairs or Get some stairs brought out to the aircraft and off load on the ramp. Walk your passengers to the terminal.
Give me a break about it being managements fault that he sat there for all that time. What a culture you have there and lack of leadership from the cockpit. If you find yourself in a storm or taking on ICE do you sit there for 8 hours and blame Dispatch for getting you into that situation. GROW SOME BALLS you AAHOLES and lead.
Mach8
 
There were 14 diverted AA planes on the ramp at a station where AA operates 5 gates with a skeleton crew. The fault lies with many others besides the Captain. The station manager should be fired without delay. The problems at AA begin at the top.

They couldn't get fueled, they couldn't get a gate and they couldn't get anyone on the phone. This one flight that made the news wasn't the only one on the ramp, which adds to an already poor situation. Put yourself in the Captain's position and tell me exactly what you would've done...

Couldn't get anyone on the phone at AUS or DFW? Was that an -80, and do AA's -80's have the forward built-in airstairs? If so they didn't even need a jetway, just pull on up. Pop open a door and ramp and gate agents respond, or get in a shouting match with you. Using the tail stairs would be a last resort. Really it wouldn't have taken very long to park at a jetway, unload the peeps, pushback and park on the ramp. Five gates, use three of 'em to unload pax at, you could set free 14 loads of pax in 2.5 hrs max. And still have two gates for flights to the other hubs.

AA's APA, wouldn't the CA be protected by them for his PIC decision making?
 
After exhausting every normal means taxi close to the terminal, Park the brakes, lower the stairs or Get some stairs brought out to the aircraft and off load on the ramp. Walk your passengers to the terminal.
Give me a break about it being managements fault that he sat there for all that time. What a culture you have there and lack of leadership from the cockpit. If you find yourself in a storm or taking on ICE do you sit there for 8 hours and blame Dispatch for getting you into that situation. GROW SOME BALLS you AAHOLES and lead.
Mach8

I expected no less.
 
Couldn't get anyone on the phone at AUS or DFW? Was that an -80, and do AA's -80's have the forward built-in airstairs? If so they didn't even need a jetway, just pull on up. Pop open a door and ramp and gate agents respond, or get in a shouting match with you. Using the tail stairs would be a last resort. Really it wouldn't have taken very long to park at a jetway, unload the peeps, pushback and park on the ramp. Five gates, use three of 'em to unload pax at, you could set free 14 loads of pax in 2.5 hrs max. And still have two gates for flights to the other hubs.

AA's APA, wouldn't the CA be protected by them for his PIC decision making?


No forward stairs on the door, only a select few not just here, but most likely any airline that flew the 80 knowhow to crawl in the back and open the stairs from the inside.

What do you do when you have people on a secured ramp not authorized to be there? Will the FAA go after your ticket on that one? What if someone gets hurt deplaning? Who will be held out to hang for that, if AA didn't authorize what he did, do you think they would back him up, this isn't SWA?

I understand what you are saying, however this isn't all about leading, this is about watching your backside. This is not the airline industry of the 80s. These days you have the FAA and your management teaming gunning for you and your job. The rules of engagement of changed since 9/11.

Personally, seeing an open gate I wold have pulled up to that one, even if was not ours. I would rather be charged for using UALs ar CALs gate then worring about 136 passengers walking around a secured ramp.

Just my thoughts,

AAflyer
 
I expected no less.
Should we sugar coat the facts for you? Defend this situation all you want, as this is not Monday morning quarterbacking. It’s a problem with the culture there concerning authority and who is wearing the pants. I remember how disgusted I was when I first jump seated on AA, as I am sure the rest of the industry was as to the lack of authority the captains had. It seemed as if the agents and flight attendants were running the show right up to pushback. No I am not a Napoleon complex kind of guy just one that feels as TWA did that the buck stopped with the Captain. That’s why TWA’s Captains program was 4 times longer than current AA upgrades as they didn’t want just lip service on this issue they wanted performance out in the field. During the upgrade they toasted us at a dinner held at a local country club and said, “Welcome to Management Gentlemen”. They also gave us membership to the Ambassador clubs or Admirals club I believe you call it. It is about respect and responsibility. It is no wonder that you guys don’t respect other pilots in your mergers, as you don’t have any respect for yourselves.
Just prior to being furloughed from AA and being replaced by your new hires I had just landed a 75 in TPA with heavy rain and an approaching thunderstorm. As we taxied in the rain increased to the point that the rampers would not come back out to lead us in. We sat there for close to an hour and listened to ramp and ground. I could not believe what I was hearing on the ramp freq as one of the MD80 captains (native) that was in holding for TPA was asking the rampers where he should divert. WOW! I am sure this topic could go on forever with what the rest of the industry has witnessed with your culture. I hope the few TWA and OZ guys that are still there can shed some light on leadership and responsibility and maybe influence your culture on a positive note.
Mach8
 
In my opinion, airline economics need to be regulated. What we have had since 1978 has been destructive competition. The laissez faire approach has not worked and has led to the decimation of jobs, wages, and benefits in a neurotic focus on costs in order to stay in business.

Utilities, and airlines all need to be regulated by our federal government.
 
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In my opinion, airline economics need to be regulated. What we have had since 1978 has been destructive competition.

No, what we've had is competition with government interference. If an airline just can't die because it keeps getting bailed out and operating under bankruptcy protection for years at a time, then it isn't deregulated.

Either re-regulate it, or deregulate it entirely. (That means killing Essential Air Service, too.) You can't do it halfway.
 
Respectfully? What kinda message board do you think this is?? We're supposed to fling poo at each other! :nuts:


And sure you can bum one. I got a whole carton of Kool Menthols here in the cage; they go great with bananas... :laugh:
 
I could not believe what I was hearing on the ramp freq as one of the MD80 captains (native) that was in holding for TPA was asking the rampers where he should divert. WOW! Mach8

Mach8Forest,

Now that’s a first – pilots calling to the rampers and asking if they should divert. Yeah, like that happens all the time.

BTW, your posts are also making it over to C&R and even the former T-Way pilots are embarrassed by the garbage in your posts.

Why is the number of your posts stuck at 78?

AA767AV8TOR
 
Im not being a Monday morning quarterback. BUT if I was the captain I would have declared an emergency if nothing I did resloved the problem. When they asked me why, I would say that some of the passengers no longer looked physically and emotionally fit to be on an airplane any longer. Some of them looked like they were about to have a heart attack. Plus I am too tired to fly any longer. I would no longer be fit to fly due to fatigue making the the release that I just signed null and void. No Captain, no go. That would make me an incapacitated crew member. Then I would call my union and hope they have the balls to stand by me. Captains authority has really gone down the drains. No one quesitons a doctor when it comes to his clients, why question a captain when it comes to the people he is responsible for.
 
Yeah maybe I am a little rough on them. I need to ask my therapist why?
Mach8
Please punkboy73 no comments.

"Please?" Wow, you're actually being polite with me! Sorry, had to comment on that. There is hope!

I actually agree with you about that CA... if it were up to me, I would have pulled up to whatever gate, like what AAflyer said, and deplaned there. Most CAs here would have done the same thing... this dude is definitely an exception (all airlines have 'em.)

Despite your blatant hatred of me, Mach, my offer of hashing it out over a few beers on me still stands. See ya in da SLT soon, bro. 73

:beer:
 
Respectfully? What kinda message board do you think this is?? We're supposed to fling poo at each other! :nuts:


And sure you can bum one. I got a whole carton of Kool Menthols here in the cage; they go great with bananas... :laugh:

If you need help flinging poo I can help you!
Mach8
 

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