Open letter to SkyWest Pilots

[hey]

In fact anyone who wants info holla at me.............

HEY! I WANT SOME INFO!!!! CAN YOU HEAR ME? I SAID, I WANT SOME INFO!!!!

 

[DoubtingThomas]

HEY! I WANT SOME INFO!!!! CAN YOU HEAR ME? I SAID, I WANT SOME INFO!!!!

Hey,

Thanks for the biggest laugh I've had from flightinfo in months.

 

[WSurf]

DECERTIFY ALPA NOW! ITS THE BIGGEST WASTE OF 2% of your check. With the amount of dues ive paid that have been wasted over the years I could have taken the lady out to even more nice dinners and we go out 3 nights a week.

True, I don't think ALPA is good for the regionals!! But when you were on strike, you sure didn't hesitate to Cash those checks that we (Alpa Members) sent ya! And don't blame ALPA for your current conditions!!!! Didn't you guys vote it in????? Remember, every man for himself.... Maybe its you that needs to stop whinning!!!

 

[Marko Ramius]

The history you don't know

WTF-Over,

This isn't a new union-busting technique, it's just seems to be new to you. Whipsaw's have been going on for quite sometime before this latest round. Be it NY Air vs. Texas International, the many predecessor carriers that now make up Eagle(and are responsible for some of the flying you now do at Mesaba btw), or B scales at AA, UA, etc. Whining (no matter how eloquent) didn't seem to help them out of those situations, doubt it will help you. There are solutions, but most of them aren't pretty and without risk-things which many Americans and pilots in particular have become quite adverse to so out comes the whining. Or you can go fight with less money under D'Angelo's theory b/c it's too hard and too much work to reform ALPA.

 

[WTF-Over]

Atkin said even bigger aircraft may be in the works for its Delta Connection service. Delta is negotiating with its pilots for permission to hire regional airlines like SkyWest and ASA to fly jets with more than 70 passengers. If the pilots agree, SkyWest could acquire 90-seat aircraft.
SkyWest is moving to larger jets because there is a need for them in some of its markets. And the cost of flying larger aircraft is cheaper, Atkin said.

This is my point, now you will be flying 90 seaters for 50 seat pay. You have no ability to ask for anything higher plus your taken away your own job proggresion.

 

[WTF-Over]

So one of the sapa reps who has done major damage to the work rules and wages not just at skywest but also caused a rippling effect to other carriers has "resigned his position". He is as anti union as they come and was specifically the biggest proponent of "flying up to 99 seats for 50 seat wages" as anyone out there. When this was comming up on a vote he never flew....he just trolled the sapa message boards and sold this agreement to everybody "this is only temperary.....throw the company a bone and when we get some of these jets on the property they will deal us an ace and better pay...separate the pay, etc".

Not surprisingly more than a few pilots are watching with interest to see where he goes (his lips are sealed for obvious reasons) and if that happens to be a union carrier that used its powers to create a work environment that "John Doe"obviously preferrs over the non union one he was so pompous about while at skywest. One other thing...during his tenure of basically giving away pilot pay and work rules to management he applied for a cheif pilot job.....was not accepted so he went back to cramming more junk down the general pilot groups throats.....maybe after all that the chief pilot job in SAN still wasnt going to work out so he turned to one of the those darn majors with its evil union and is now movin over leaving a very sad legacy and ruins behind him for those pilots he was supposed to represent to "deal with" now that he is gone. Pretty soon he will forget all about those poor slobs as he kissed butt trying to make cheif pilot at his new airline. Whoever got him.....beware!

Apparently not all skywest pilots are happy!! This is from another post

 

[whipsaw]

WTF-OVER,
Its about time somebody said this. This is the best post I have read in a long time. I think that you hit a nerve with some of these guys here.

 

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"WTF-OVER,
Its about time somebody said this. This is the best post I have read in a long time. I think that you hit a nerve with some of these guys here."





Did WTF-OVER just create his own "ALTER -EGO" handle?

Hope Nobody whiipsaws him against himself!

 

[theo]

Why did I come to SkyWest? I was furloughed (freight doggie). Lots of west coast flying. West coast domiciles. My friends who got hired here have stayed...and love it. It used to have a "family" feel, although not as much now cause the company has grown so much. The pay is decent. The maintenance is good.

Who we fly for, whether or not there is a union on property, or lifelong employment was never a factor in my decision to work here.

I take no joy in watching other pilots get hosed by their respective companies. I take no joy in the fact that I'm flying routes taken from other carriers. Its a job. We fly for a living. We apply for work at companies we think will bring us the most satisfaction, whatever those reasons may be.

I am fully aware there are no guarantees in aviation. Just trying to do the best I can for myself under the circumstances. Nobody owes me anything. I will move on when a better opportunity arises. No bloated ego, no immature finger-pointing, just a professional pilot who loves what I do, and keeps things professional so I won't undermine the respect we are given by the public, and from each other.

Business can be a ruthless, evil, greedy game. Not my bag baby, I'll just fly.

Great Post...Thank You!

 

[Ben Dover]

WTF-Over,
Dude, I think you're frustration is misplaced. It's not the SkyWest pilots or non-union status that's created your situation. Pilot pay is a tiny fraction of the over-all cost per hour to operate an RJ. Superior management and a bit of luck has put SkyWest head and shoulders above most other regional carriers. So don't be pissed at the SkyWest boys, you should be pissed at your own inept management team.

 

[Dave Benjamin]

Dave, you mean you weren't there for his Mardis Gras party?? I was.

I was going to say hi to you but you were already passed out underneath the gazebo.

LOL

 

[pookie]

I hate to tell you guys this but WTF-Over is a skywest employee that goes by the initials A.B. I took some his posts from the SAPA site and merged them with his posts here. His grammer is very similar. If you go to his posts, he uses WTFO quite often and that would be a good start. I dont want to piss him off but he is a stand up pilot with good intentions but i just feel that to camouflage oneself with another regional to make a point is kind of immature.

 

[s.o.sJTB]

I hate to tell you guys this but WTF-Over is a skywest employee that goes by the initials A.B. I took some his posts from the SAPA site and merged them with his posts here. His grammer is very similar. If you go to his posts, he uses WTFO quite often and that would be a good start. I dont want to piss him off but he is a stand up pilot with good intentions but i just feel that to camouflage oneself with another regional to make a point is kind of immature.

WTF-over is not A.B., I have read A.B.'s posts and that is not his style of posting. The grammar is not similar as you say, A.B. has come off a little more heavy handed on the SAPA forums, why would he be less on an anonymous message board? especially when it comes to decisons that the SkyWest pilots regretffuly made?

Plus I dont think A.B. wastes his time posting on these forums, especially in such an underhanded way...

 

[ERJFO]

But yet, skywest has some of the best schedules, trips, pay, and work rules out of all the regionals. They have hung onto their domiciles, and expanded while doing so. I think there is a bigger reason behind their being successful other than not having a union.

Obviously your not into research or the truth... Have fun when the perf. bidding comes around.

 

[WTF-Over]

It seems I've unvailed some discontent.

 

[Ben Dover]

It seems I've unvailed some discontent.

Or more likely you've unveiled the pin on your head...

 

[Shobra]

Stupid people

Quit whining! This environment is called every man for himself and may the best man win!!! Let us ask ourselves this. What union allowed all this to start happening? Thats right ALPO started this whole race my friend. The best way to send a message is for everyone to start trying to get ALPO decertified. In fact anyone who wants info holla at me. Isnt it funny the non union company makes more than most regionals do? What does that say about ALPO? I say its time to impeach every single one of those SOBs. Comair used to have the good contract and look what we were forced into. DECERTIFY ALPA NOW! ITS THE BIGGEST WASTE OF 2% of your check. With the amount of dues ive paid that have been wasted over the years I could have taken the lady out to even more nice dinners and we go out 3 nights a week. Instead of "holding the line" lets put ALPA on ice, they do no good anyway

You are the biggest idoit on this board. It is because of you (and people like you) that this industries work force is in the trouble. The sad and terrible thing is, that with your Myopic thoughts and views it renders you incapable of intellectual thought.

In other words... your the plague you dumb a$$.

 

[goodpilotithink]

Skywest is kicking azz and taking names. Plus decent pay

OMG!

SINCE WHEN IS FLYING 70-99 SEAT AIRCRAFT AT SUB PAR 50 SEAT RATES "DECENT PAY"?

YOU PEOPLE ALONG WITH MESA AND CHAWAWA ARE THE PROBLEM.

 

[Halo_RJdriver]

exicited

It seems I've unvailed some discontent.

Damn skippy!!!!!! I am overly exicited about PBS (F-NO) Oh and I think I would enjoy flying a 70/90 seat aircraft for $55/hr (F-NO) Lets not forget no cost of living raise or any decent QOL issue that we supposedly could negoitiate since we are non union. (Thanks Sapa whores)

SkyWest is a good company. It still has room to improve.

Bottomline is the Cali domociles trolls need to stop licking managment nutz and get their ducks in a row after that pitiful worthless TA that has been forgotten in only a few months. 1.2% will buy about 4 extra tanks of gas for your lawnmower or your hoopty.


The Status of SKYWEST pilots being "over a barrel" will hopefully end this YEAR.

 

[Jon Rivoli]

OOOOH!!! All caps, he must be smart! The problem with this industry is low revenues. What or who is driving fares down? Figure that one out and you've got your finger on what's causing the hurt in this profession. But hey, airlines don't exist to provide you with your dream job, it's the customer stupid. Change is inevitable, you don't have to like it, but it's coming. It's already here.