Ole Gardner checking up on Flight Options

[netjetwife]

....Playing the games of the "Gardener" will bear no fruit. It will bear a crop that will rot in the field.

Like it is in the NJA field next farm over... Actually, after the Management games stopped, they realized the pilots were on the same team; now they're all working together to harvest a bumper crop and the relationship between the Company and the Union has never been better. Everyone knows what happens in contract battles.

Here's your sign.....FUD

 

[Frac Cap]

B19, if management is so good, why in your opinion is management perpetuating this problem of hostility by not properly providing fair compensation that is in line with industry standards? By doing so, would lower the hostile environment that is perpetuated by salary's that will soon now be over $50K under industry standards.

It was bad enough when last time CS and Flex ponied up the money and Flops management was asleep at the wheel. But when net jets gets another raise and the only response from Flight Options management is the sound of crickets....that will be more that even the most loyal management loving pilot could stand. I truly believe that the moral will be at a level to where every pilot will be looking for ways to grind this company to a halt, and force management to bargain in good faith. I don't think that is right, but I guess that is just human nature.

It shouldn't be that way. Our few and ever dwindling owners deserve better from our company.

 

[netjetwife]

Well known facts about low morale: Unmotivated workers are less productive as they become numbed and sluggish after repeated whacks with a stick. Labor unrest is very stressful and stress can make one physically ill. When you get run down (physically and/or mentally) you're more susceptible to picking up germs.

In all due respect Frac Cap, you have it backwards, it is management's arrogance and disrespectful attitude that will grind the pilots to a halt--and by default, the company. You are correct, though, that human nature, exhibited in low morale, will run a predictable course. That said, my sense of fairness compels me to give credit where credit is due--to the short-sighted, penny wise, pound foolish managers of Flight Options.

 

[Way2Broke]

Can I have the last 10 minutes of my life back please? Seriously, I am all for QOL, pay, etc, but..... if this is how you think your going to get it then you have ALOT to learn. It takes alot more than a creative letter to change things. And this comes from a Tennessee boy.

 

[SilverSurfer]

You are right

Can I have the last 10 minutes of my life back please? Seriously, I am all for QOL, pay, etc, but..... if this is how you think your going to get it then you have ALOT to learn. It takes alot more than a creative letter to change things. And this comes from a Tennessee boy.

One letter can't do it. It takes every pilot we have all working for the same goal and providing the finical support needed to keep the process moving forward. It takes informational efforts in multiple media educating our pilots, our owners, the public/potential customers about our efforts. It take skilled men sitting with company counterparts at the negotiations table fighting for a contract. It takes time and commitment by all of us to see this through to our collective goal.

You are right it takes a lot of people working hard supported by all of our members to make it happen.

 

[B19 Flyer]

Like it is in the NJA field next farm over... Actually, after the Management games stopped, they realized the pilots were on the same team; now they're all working together to harvest a bumper crop and the relationship between the Company and the Union has never been better. Everyone knows what happens in contract battles.

Delaying flights intentionally by writing up items that would not normally be written up creates additional human factors issues and INCREASES RISK.

Not supporting the company by refusing ALL overtime, no matter how small it is adds operational demands to all people in the operation and creates additional human factors issues and INCREASES RISK.

Causing cancellations and forcing passengers onto charter flights that are not owned by the company INCREASES RISK to the ower.

Apparently, because the union is not capable of negotiating a contract without tactics such as these, you are an advocate of INCREASED RISK.

If I thought for a moment that any union would come on and not threaten the careers of rank and file employees, the financial health of the company or increase risk during the negotiation process I wouldn't feel the way I do but history has shown otherwise.

Oh, and while I'm talking about history, get off the NJ short term contract effects and lets talk INDUSTRY. Every carrier has had a union agreement and at times has been profitable.

Yet every carrier since the beginning of time has has labor trouble and unions have been slow to react forcing carriers into bankruptcy as a result.

 

[On Your Six]

Delaying flights intentionally by writing up items that would not normally be written up creates additional human factors issues and INCREASES RISK.

Not supporting the company by refusing ALL overtime, no matter how small it is adds operational demands to all people in the operation and creates additional human factors issues and INCREASES RISK.

Causing cancellations and forcing passengers onto charter flights that are not owned by the company INCREASES RISK to the ower.

Apparently, because the union is not capable of negotiating a contract without tactics such as these, you are an advocate of INCREASED RISK.

If I thought for a moment that any union would come on and not threaten the careers of rank and file employees, the financial health of the company or increase risk during the negotiation process I wouldn't feel the way I do but history has shown otherwise.

Oh, and while I'm talking about history, get off the NJ short term contract effects and lets talk INDUSTRY. Every carrier has had a union agreement and at times has been profitable.

Yet every carrier since the beginning of time has has labor trouble and unions have been slow to react forcing carriers into bankruptcy as a result.

I will never understand aviation/airline/fractional management styles. It's counterintuitive. For example, Mr. Scheringa's lack of respect for his front-line employees increases their RISK of departure. I thought this was a service business? Why would anyone in a service business wish to upset the employees who interface with customers? Doesn't make a lot of sense...

 

[dime line]

Delaying flights intentionally by writing up items that would not normally be written up creates additional human factors issues and INCREASES RISK.

Not supporting the company by refusing ALL overtime, no matter how small it is adds operational demands to all people in the operation and creates additional human factors issues and INCREASES RISK.

Causing cancellations and forcing passengers onto charter flights that are not owned by the company INCREASES RISK to the ower.

Apparently, because the union is not capable of negotiating a contract without tactics such as these, you are an advocate of INCREASED RISK.

If I thought for a moment that any union would come on and not threaten the careers of rank and file employees, the financial health of the company or increase risk during the negotiation process I wouldn't feel the way I do but history has shown otherwise.

Oh, and while I'm talking about history, get off the NJ short term contract effects and lets talk INDUSTRY. Every carrier has had a union agreement and at times has been profitable.

Yet every carrier since the beginning of time has has labor trouble and unions have been slow to react forcing carriers into bankruptcy as a result.

Sounds like the writings of a scab to me

 

[nomore]

Torment

You guys are tormenting me I know. I have Bob, oops I mean B-19 on ignore. And since he's irrelevant it's the perfect place for him. Then you have to keep quoting the puke. Give me a break please don't quote Bob anymore. He doesn't matter.

 

[B19 Flyer]

You guys are tormenting me I know. I have Bob, oops I mean B-19 on ignore. And since he's irrelevant it's the perfect place for him. Then you have to keep quoting the puke. Give me a break please don't quote Bob anymore. He doesn't matter.

See no evil;

Hear no evil;

Speak no evil;

Join a union;

Have no fun! :laugh: