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JimmyKool

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Highest in two years. Come on ual park the 50's and bring the Guppy's back online then recall my a**! Anybody think this could happen?
 
nerjdriver said:
BAHAHAHAHAHAHA SO SAYS THE E190 FO?!?!?!?!?!?!?!


You have to be kidding me? Are you serious Mr Kettle?
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I could bid to the Boeing or Airbus if I wanted but I'd rather have a line for now. What do you get to bid between, the 37 or 50 seater?
 
You can bring back the flying cardboard box, just make sure I'm on a Mainline certificate seniority list and pay me appropriately.
 
nerjdriver said:
I think they should start parking all those 737-5, 752s and 762s then too! Come on E170!
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Fly whatever A/C is the most efficient. United/CAL pilots fly United flying. MGT. is welcome to fly the most efficient A/C without abused labor subsidizing their business with sweatshop wages that will never rise.
 
bizicmo said:
Just curious what is the appropriate rate for a cardboard box?
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You need to ask that question from one of the cargo carriers,
please post in the Cargo section. :eek:

Wholly crap I'm almost a moderator! lol
 
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JimmyKool said:
Highest in two years. Come on ual park the 50's and bring the Guppy's back online then recall my a**! Anybody think this could happen?
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Let's see here.... oil is expensive so you want to bring back a 130 seat airplane to replace to the 50 seat airplane.

The thing your missing is that the 50 people on the RJ are the people willing to pay the higher ticket prices.

If you put a 130 seat airplane in place of it then you end up with 50 or so people paying the higher last minute ticket price and 60 or 70 other people tagging along who are only flying since they got an advance purchase seat for $29.

That's why RJs make sense and there are so many of them. They let you keep the high dollar passengers and forget about the $29 people.

The higher gas prices go the more sense smaller airplanes make even if it's a 787 instead of a 747. Sure the seat mile cost is better on the bigger airplane, but what's your average revenue per seat compared to the seat mile cost?

The 747 is great if you can sell all or most of the seats at good prices, but if you have to sell out half the airplane at dirt cheap 3+ month advance purchase prices to fill all the seats by departure then what's the point of a big airplane on the route?

Why not put an airplane with half the seats on the flight if you can still get 80% of the revenue and make more money by not bothering with the low price people? That's why no one in the US is buying 747s anymore for passenger ops.

Cheers,
Scott
 
sstearns2 said:
Let's see here.... oil is expensive so you want to bring back a 130 seat airplane to replace to the 50 seat airplane.

The thing your missing is that the 50 people on the RJ are the people willing to pay the higher ticket prices.

If you put a 130 seat airplane in place of it then you end up with 50 or so people paying the higher last minute ticket price and 60 or 70 other people tagging along who are only flying since they got an advance purchase seat for $29.

That's why RJs make sense and there are so many of them. They let you keep the high dollar passengers and forget about the $29 people.

The higher gas prices go the more sense smaller airplanes make even if it's a 787 instead of a 747. Sure the seat mile cost is better on the bigger airplane, but what's your average revenue per seat compared to the seat mile cost?

The 747 is great if you can sell all or most of the seats at good prices, but if you have to sell out half the airplane at dirt cheap 3+ month advance purchase prices to fill all the seats by departure then what's the point of a big airplane on the route?

Why not put an airplane with half the seats on the flight if you can still get 80% of the revenue and make more money by not bothering with the low price people? That's why no one in the US is buying 747s anymore for passenger ops.

Cheers,
Scott
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This guy was the kid that ate the glue in 2nd grade art class.
 
I want out of my regional for sure, but one thing that offsets the higher oil prices is the added bag fees. That does provide more of an economic cushion.
 
johnsonrod said:
I want out of my regional for sure, but one thing that offsets the higher oil prices is the added bag fees. That does provide more of an economic cushion.
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Kind of like saying the fat chick would be ugly if it weren't for her overpriced lipstick. Enjoy your RJ dude, every day you are there is a day closer to the right seat if oil continues to go up.
 
yeh yeh u boys be saying dat for yrs now, RJs here to stay, and 100 seaters soon for the regionals, enjoy your payoff pay raise and your 30 yrs in the right seat :laugh:
 
My thought process is parking two or three 50's for every guppy brought back. Seems to be way to much overlap in the system. Eight flts a day to a medium city in 50's from three different hubs doesn't make much sense even from a convience stand point.
 
:laugh: your "thought process"????? u be in marketing now??? seems mgt making rj frequency work, has for yrs now, but keep posting your crap on here your buds will eat it up
 
JimmyKool said:
Highest in two years. Come on ual park the 50's and bring the Guppy's back online then recall my a**! Anybody think this could happen?
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Why would you wait for this job? It is not that great, there are other things out in the world that pay better and work less...
 
JimmyKool said:
My thought process is parking two or three 50's for every guppy brought back. Seems to be way to much overlap in the system. Eight flts a day to a medium city in 50's from three different hubs doesn't make much sense even from a convience stand point.
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That just makes way too much sense. Therefore, it probably won't happen.
 
johnboy99 said:
Kind of like saying the fat chick would be ugly if it weren't for her overpriced lipstick. Enjoy your RJ dude, every day you are there is a day closer to the right seat if oil continues to go up.
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I have a feeling I will be moving on sooner than later. Enjoy your J-3 cub if you can afford to put gas in it. Otherwise, go back to working at 7-11 and clean up aisle 3 while you are at it, dude.
 
Freebrd said:
yeh yeh u boys be saying dat for yrs now, RJs here to stay, and 100 seaters soon for the regionals, enjoy your payoff pay raise and your 30 yrs in the right seat :laugh:
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This from a guy flying CR9s in Vietnam! HAHAHHAHAHAHA Enjoy saying "me so horny" to a bunch of dudes at Hanoi airport. I bet you wish you were flying those Vietnam Air A330s. Guess what? They don't want you either.
 
Shortsighted RJ pilots..really makes me sad.


We don't all think this way. I don't intend on staying on the barbie jet forever


PS the guy flying for Mekong is working for 50% of the going rate most expats get over there. Nice credibility dude!!
 
johnsonrod said:
This from a guy flying CR9s in Vietnam! HAHAHHAHAHAHA Enjoy saying "me so horny" to a bunch of dudes at Hanoi airport. I bet you wish you were flying those Vietnam Air A330s. Guess what? They don't want you either.
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I educate all the expats I fly with at Vietnam Airlines and when they hear of the T & Cs they give me a blank stare of disbelief !

And the CPTs on the ATR make 8K a month and fly a 60 hr schedule -so go figure........lol
 
i applied for those atr jobs-- they didnt like that i wasnt current-- i said -- ummmm noone flies those anymore-- ur lucky i have a type rating and the time in it--- and why would you pay for my training anyway-- then they came back with the schedule-- training on your days off-- i told them to pound curry-- im still trying to get you back-- were not running anything until next year ( typical) key lime is hiring- to get u back to denver real quick
 
Those schedules are cush........but I understand.

I think I will wait a bit - Key Lime isn't that great.
Thanks for keeping an eye out brother.
 
JimmyKool said:
Highest in two years. Come on ual park the 50's and bring the Guppy's back online then recall my a**! Anybody think this could happen?
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No. If there was an economic advantage to doing so, they already would have.

You probably think the reason RJs have an advantage is because of the low labor rates. So what has your MEC done to improve that besides tell the RJ pilots what losers they are? Maybe the UAL MEC should start working with them on their contracts? Improve their compensation and remove the economic advantage of using an 2 RJs instead of a 737. THEN it will be much easier to retire them.
 

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