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Crash Pad said:Two guys say the Union sucks. Another two guys say it is great.
Ok now for the reality. The union is being broken right in front of your eyes. Go up to MSP and find me a pro union mechanic.... See what I am getting at.
If the union wants to impress me they will get to a single list and fast. If the pilot group wants to impress me they will tell Jerry we will dump the Union and be rolled into one list under the SKYW working agreement.
Based on this thread neither will happen and I will start out at the bottom at SKYW on first year pay.
ASA_Aviator said:I would put a stop to the anti-intellectual culture at ALPA. Our pilots are not idiots, and they can think for themselves. It is not seditious to think and act independently.
Bizjet said:And Joey wants to make sure we are the leaders of "backwards pattern bargaining"! This industry is changing and you want to make sure you and your type are never involved in assisting the evil union so now you must support the inept aviation managements that run the airlines. You are one truly screwed up individual. Your personal hatred for ALPA and weak personality prevents you from having any ability to stand up for what is right. You are just looking out for yourself only. I guess this should have been expected because of the company you keep. The two of you could care less about your fellow pilots especially those who support the union. You two have made your own bed and you will forever have to lay in it--excrement and all. You no longer have to stay here because your missionary work is done. You have failed to convert the heathen pilots of ASA and now it is time for the two of you to officially cross over to the enlightened management side. I am sure you will be rewarded for your failed efforts.
THOU SHALL NOT STEAL! So do you think you can return the minutes you stole from the union LEC meeting? Your childish refusal only reinforces the belief that you are totally out of control with your professional as well as your personal life! Your mini lectures on how to run the union have failed. Return the unions property and resign your position as LEC Sec./Treas. since you have refused to do your job for the last two plus years and continue being professional slumlords. Speaking of new boats for Duane maybe you can buy his old one. I understand the teak decks are so clean you can crawl around on them and never get any "dirtier".
ASA_Aviator said:Weak personality... So if I bend to the union merely because everyone else does, that makes me strong? Conforming to a herd like a bunch of sheep gives me strength? Explain that one to me Einstein... Seems to me the strong ones are the ones who have the capability to think for themselves, and who do not conform to the whims of a group just because everyone else does.
ASA_Aviator said:If someone doesn't drink the union cool-aid, the pinko-commie types come along and say you sleep in excrement, etc. etc. ad nauseum. How dare I have the gall to not stand next to my union brothers in 100% solidarity?!!!! Well, I don't "toe the line" because the union we have at ASA is impotent.
ASA_Aviator said:Which is why we, as a group, should be doing everything in our power to make this the most efficient, lean company out there. We can get more flying, control more of the marketplace, and then we can demand higher prices for our services, which in turn will give the company the capital and reason to reward us for our efforts.
ASA_Aviator said:Face it, there's a lot of dissent right now about the union. It just isn't providing results, and it costs us dearly. For the union to survive, it needs to actually DO something, and it needs to represent the group in a meaningful way. (Don't even get me started on the fact that I'm FORCED to pay dues even though I want to have nothing to do with the union.)
Bizjet said:The sooner you leave the more senior you will be at SkyWest. Bye, Bye.
Gr82Aviate said:No thanks...we don't need anymore anti-union, anti fellow pilot, management brown nosers here.