NWA Pilots Authorize Strike.

[FDJ2]

AP
Northwest Pilots Authorize Strike
Tuesday February 28, 7:32 pm ET Northwest Pilots Authorize Strike if Airline Carries Out Threatened Pay-Cut and Work-Rule Changes

MINNEAPOLIS (AP) -- The pilots union at Northwest Airlines Corp. said Tuesday that its members have authorized a strike if the carrier imposes its threatened pay-cut and work-rule changes.

More than 92 percent of pilots voted in favor of authorizing a strike, said Wade Blaufuss, spokesman for the Northwest branch of the Air Line Pilots Association. He said more than 90 percent of Northwest's 4,851 eligible pilots voted.

Blaufuss spoke by phone from New York, where the union leadership is meeting amid talks with the airline.
The vote authorizes union leaders to call a strike, but doesn't guarantee that they will. The union has said it wouldn't strike unless Northwest imposes pay-cut and work rule changes. Wednesday is the earliest that could happen. That's the day that New York bankruptcy judge Allan Gropper is set to rule on the airline's request to reject its union contracts with pilots and flight attendants. Flight attendants have also threatened to strike, but their vote doesn't wrap up until March 6.

 

[787]

What's the status of the negotations? Is the new deadline Mar 1, or 3?

 

[Going2Baja]

Tomorrow is the day as of last extension.

"What do you think now management?"

Time to cut the crap and lets get this thing done!

Baja.

 

[JoeMerchant]

AP


More than 92 percent of pilots voted in favor of authorizing a strike, said Wade Blaufuss, spokesman for the Northwest branch of the Air Line Pilots Association. He said more than 90 percent of Northwest's 4,851 eligible pilots voted.

FDJ2,
That isn't a very good result if you ask me. In 1998, ASA had 98% in favor of striking with a 98% voter turn out. Mesaba just had a 98% vote in favor of striking. 90% voting with 92% voting in favor isn't very good. It also is a good indication of the DAL vote. The NWA pilots, aka Cobra pilots, are much more militant than the DAL pilots. This would indicate that a DAL vote will be even worse.

 

[BoilerUP]

I don't understand why 9-10% of NWA pilots wouldn't vote.

Guess you're always gonna have that 5-10% that can't be bothered to make a stand and voice their opinion either way...

 

[shon7]

AP
Northwest Pilots Authorize Strike
Tuesday February 28, 7:32 pm ET Northwest Pilots Authorize Strike if Airline Carries Out Threatened Pay-Cut and Work-Rule Changes

MINNEAPOLIS (AP) -- The pilots union at Northwest Airlines Corp. said Tuesday that its members have authorized a strike if the carrier imposes its threatened pay-cut and work-rule changes.

More than 92 percent of pilots voted in favor of authorizing a strike, said Wade Blaufuss, spokesman for the Northwest branch of the Air Line Pilots Association. He said more than 90 percent of Northwest's 4,851 eligible pilots voted.

Blaufuss spoke by phone from New York, where the union leadership is meeting amid talks with the airline.
The vote authorizes union leaders to call a strike, but doesn't guarantee that they will. The union has said it wouldn't strike unless Northwest imposes pay-cut and work rule changes. Wednesday is the earliest that could happen. That's the day that New York bankruptcy judge Allan Gropper is set to rule on the airline's request to reject its union contracts with pilots and flight attendants. Flight attendants have also threatened to strike, but their vote doesn't wrap up until March 6.

Only time will tell.

 

[180ToTheMarker]

FDJ2,
That isn't a very good result if you ask me.

He didn't ask you JB.

 

[FDJ2]

I don't understand why 9-10% of NWA pilots wouldn't vote.

...

Back during our last contract negotiations some pilots who were close to retirement abstained from voting. They didn't feel they should vote on a contract they wouldn't be living under. While not exactly analogous to this situation, I wouldn't be surprised if some of the senior guys withheld their vote aswell as some of the guys on SLOA.

 

[FDJ2]

FDJ2,
That isn't a very good result if you ask me.

I think it is very good and indicates the willingness of the NWA pilots to pull the trigger if it comes to that. My guess is that management will seek an extension tommorrow in order to avoid a strike.

As far as the DAL pilots, you have no basis for your conclusions. But don't fret about it too much, you'll get your answer soon enough.

 

[Going2Baja]

JM and Boiler - you guys don't have a clue. 90% isn't that much? What a joke! You must have been really freeked out at the last Govt. election. I think the last memrat vote to the NWA guys btought in somehthing like 75% of elgible voters. I think 90% sned one heck of a message to the Mngt.

Good luck guys - let's put this behind us and get on with it!

Baja.

 

[vtwo]

bla bla bla

oop's

 

[81Horse]

I think 92+% in favor of striking, out of 90% voting, is amazing. Considering that, this time, it's probably a mandate to burn the hangar to the ground. Nobody takes that kind of decision lightly.

A more important number to shoot for is 0% scabs.

 

[JoeMerchant]

He didn't ask you JB.

And I didn't ask you.... you're at AirTran now, so this doesn't affect you... YET! It will in time and there isn't anything your precious ALPA can do for you. By the way, are you trying to get ALPA on the property at Citrus ????

 

[vtwo]

Whatever????????????

bla bla bla
we've seen this all before at other airlines.

company threatens bankruptcy

Pilots take pay cuts(voluntary)

company file chapter 11

threatens more pay and benefit cuts

Company lets slip what they want from a judge( contract that sucks really bad)

company threatens 1113 motion to void contract.

union starts to negotiate more cuts.

Union stands strong and says we will strike if 1113 imposed

Union Touts 90+ percent strike vote

company say pilots are greedy and don't care about the rest of the company's employees( company wants to start war within employees)

The day the judge is supposed to rule on 1113 some thing happens (ie..
tentative agreement, ruling postponed, bla bla bla)

Union comes to membership with a ta ( ta sucks bad but not as bad as the company wish list)

Member ship votes for the negotiated crap contract by just above 50%
justifies this crap by saying" it beats finding a new job" or "We will live to fight a new day" or bla bla bla.)

Bottom line is: we all know that there will not be a strike! The strike vote is like giving kids a chance to pick crayons from the new box or the old bucket. it just doesn't matter the out come.


you NWA pilots don't have the nerve. in the end the company will roll over you like they did the mechanics!
have fun licking you wounds.

I am really sorry that this is going to happen to you guys. but why shouldn't it? It is what happened to the airline pilots who's company's have filed bankruptcy.

 

[IXLR8]

Oh Brother

vtwo..
that was, with out a doubt, the dumbest post I have seen on here yet...

 

[BoilerUP]

Baja -

I never said 90% wasn't alot - but considering the reprecussions of what could be coming in the next few days, 100% turnout really isn't too much to ask for, plus that sends a MUCH stronger signal to management. When UPS took their strike vote, I think it was 99% voted and 99% voted to strike. THAT is unity and would send Eagan a firm signal as such.

not a slam, just an observation. Good luck!

 

[gutshotdraw]

Baja,

I also wish the vote had been stronger if only to better convince Frankensteenland and the rest of the management pudknockers that NWA ALPA will strike if the contract is voided. The company says such a strike would be illegal but I don't care. If the contract is voided, I'm not letting my wife out the door. She will not fly for this management's idea of fair wages.

 

[Going2Baja]

vtwo..
that was, with out a doubt, the dumbest post I have seen on here yet...

Yes it was!!

 

[Diesel]

maybe mechanics will back up your strike like you backed them.

 

[vtwo]

i'll try again

there will be no strike at NWA because the pilots don't have the nerve.
the company has seen this before at other airlines
Chest thumping is all this is .
when it comes down to nity grity you guys will take what is handed to you and be licking your wounds.

 

[aerobaticspilot]

vtwo..
that was, with out a doubt, the dumbest post I have seen on here yet...

get out from behind your desk and try to do what we do. loser

 

[pgcfii2002]

I wonder what Delta will do??

 

[IXLR8]

wow

get out from behind your desk and try to do what we do. loser

name calling..ouch.

 

[SWA/FO]

what would brian boitano do?

http://home.usadatanet.net/~paruby/06_boitano.htm

 

[IXLR8]

vtwo

"Northwest pilots have struck five times, most recently in 1998."..although the times for the airlines are much different than they have been in the past when most all majors were actually making money...these are very different times for all of the Unions to be going over contracts and trying to get what they can under the relm of chapter 11.....especially when MGT keeps spouting how they need to pay all of these "top notch" exec's their bonuses to keep them on board...since it looks like they are doing such a fine job. It isnt in the best interest of the pilots to strike...but it may be the only option...

 

[FDJ2]

Baja - When UPS took their strike vote, I think it was 99% voted and 99% voted to strike. THAT is unity and would send Eagan a firm signal as such.

The UPS pilots weren't facing what the NWA pilots are facing tommorrow. I'm not taking anything away from the UPS pilots, I think they're great and have demonstrated a great deal of unity, but it's an apples to oranges comparison.

Considering the fact that this vote came in on the eve of a court decision and the repercussions of a strike under these circumstances, having this type of a result is impressive.

 

[FDJ2]

I wonder what Delta will do??

I don't think you'll have to wait too long to find out.

 

[Diesel]

I hope not since all my airline points are with Delta. We (NJ as a company) have not ridden on NWA since the Mechanics strike. We are still not riding on them.

Kinda sad because it looks like we are the only ones honoring the strike.

Karma is a Biattch

 

[RedDogC130]

Nobody will strike. It would be the end. Do you really think all those guys/gals want to lose it all. They will work for peanuts rather than work for nothing. Lets face reality. The end is here for our high income dreams. Let hope we can all afford it. Time to go from the Porcshe to the Pontiac. I cant even spell Porcshe so I can't afford it.

 

[180ToTheMarker]

By the way, are you trying to get ALPA on the property at Citrus ????

I think most folks at AirTran are happy with our in-house union. Like yourself, I'm not a big fan of ALPA. We just have different reasons for our dislike of DW.