NWA: interim contract proposed: 24% pay cuts now

[michael707767]

How's this for enlightenment. Capacity between the 747 and DC9 have nothing to do with payscales. 6 legs a day on a DC9 carries more capacity than a 1 leg 747.

actually, you are wrong. First of all, in this industry revenue and costs are measured per seat mile. A DC-9 flying six legs out and back from DTW will still not produce as many seat miles as a 747 flying from DTW-NRT. Add to that, even though you carry many people during the day, you still only have the opportunity to kill 100 or so if you crash, vs the 300 or more that a 747 pilot could kill in a crash.

 

[xjlifer]

actually, you are wrong. First of all, in this industry revenue and costs are measured per seat mile. A DC-9 flying six legs out and back from DTW will still not produce as many seat miles as a 747 flying from DTW-NRT. Add to that, even though you carry many people during the day, you still only have the opportunity to kill 100 or so if you crash, vs the 300 or more that a 747 pilot could kill in a crash.

So your paid on the opportunity to kill people?

 

[drag]

So your paid on the opportunity to kill people?

I never said that. But now that it's brought up....never mind. By the way, maybe NWA 747 pilots should take the biggest cuts. After all, the 747 may generate the most revenue but it also bleeds the most. Maybe that's why Mirana and Goodyear AZ are full of them. Lets not forget Victorville, CA too.

 

[OUT]

I hope they don't get rid of the 747s. They are one of the last airlines flying them here and i want to fly one someday.

 

[GoABX]

If I don't have to fly with gay F/A's should my hourly rate be higher or lower?

Has there been any rumor relating to NWA Cargo? Selling, spinning off, etc. What is its profitability relative to mainline. If it were separated what percentage of whale pilots would follow cargo?

 

[NuGuy]

If I don't have to fly with gay F/A's should my hourly rate be higher or lower?

Has there been any rumor relating to NWA Cargo? Selling, spinning off, etc. What is its profitability relative to mainline. If it were separated what percentage of whale pilots would follow cargo?

Zero rumors. The cargo rights that NWA holds are intertwined very tightly with their passenger rights. From what we've been told, it is almost impossible to seperate the cargo operation without disrupting the whole Pacific system.

Nu

 

[Draginass]

Stenland has thrashed the mechanics and now he's after the pilots. 23% is just the appetizer. There's not going to be any negotiation. Stenland is going to tell ALPA what they're going to get and he'll be able to do it because he knows that ALPA doesn't have the guts to shut the company down.

 

[michael707767]

So your paid on the opportunity to kill people?

no, you are paid for the resposibility you have and the liability you represent to the company if you F... up.

 

[Tank Commander]

To get ratification you look after those who will ratify it. If their had been DC-9 pilots on the team, I'm sure it would have looked a little different. Pilots eat their young, they always have.

 

[surplus1]

If I don't have to fly with gay F/A's should my hourly rate be higher or lower?

That depends on wheter you're a "conservative" or a "liberal". If the former you get hazardous duty pay; if the latter its a fringe benefit that you'll probably have to give up in concessionary bargaining.

 

[castle bravo]

[" There's not going to be any negotiation. Stenland is going to tell ALPA what they're going to get and he'll be able to do it because he knows that ALPA doesn't have the guts to shut the company down."[/quote]



More realistic: our RED BOOK friends in MSP won't shut it down.