FlyinPiker
Incon-fricking-spicuous
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- Sep 6, 2005
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Maybe NWA raises are for the fact I will loose a $200,000 sick leave balance I earned. Will cost those without the age 60 military medical almost $200,000 extra over their life expectancy to pay Delta's health care rates for retired pilots vs. NWA rates for retired pilots. No FMLA, loose the $99,000 (cap) disability retirement (no charge). Slightly lower pay rates at NWA after CH-11 were negotiated based on funding for the pension. Our priorities were different. Working an extra day or two a month guys can make the same totals as DAL if they want. While you guys continue to be seduced by hourly rates/bragging rights, you have negotiated away scope, pensions and other things and added large out of pocket expenses in other areas in you recent contracts. You should be venting your anger toward the +2500 that ditched you.
I totally agree that our medical is about the weakest i've came across and that's compared to the previous regionals I worked for.
Totally blows you lose your sick leave balance as well...is that a TA thing or a just what happens in a merger situation?
Pay rates are pretty yes, but flip through the contract. Workrules and other extra's are in play here too and in fact do more for us than just having a higher payrate so don't downplay what DAL pilots have been able to keep.
I know your back was against the wall but also don't downplay the contract that produced Compass and Mesaba -900's in addition to paycuts.
We can point fingers all day long at each other about who sucks more than the other or who is bringing more to the table but the more we do the more we will find ourselves doing the same thing 20 years from now. Doesn't that sound like a nice place to work!
For DAL pilots to get NWA sized hike in their payrate's is dreaming. I think what DAL pilots are wanting is something....anything that gives them a reason to vote yes on this ( other than possible "added job security" which I will agree is priceless..well actually in this industry non exsistant, but I'm not one of the one's wanting more). NWA says they will not budge on seniority ( I wouldn't either) which is smart because they knew either way the contracts would have to be brought to equal standards.
So maybe that reason could come in the way of fences...I don't know (not because anybody's planes/bases are superior ...get off it guys....it's so no one's QOL from both sides is deteriorated). As has been mentioned before though, without a SLI complete and the details of how it's to be implemented I don't see any reason for either side to be rushing to check off another box on managements list's of things to do. We tried doing the SLI before...how'd that go? I think we all see why a "forced" SLI is tied to this whole thing.
I know we are living in a dream world thinking we can do this on our own, but I honestly think a lot of DAL pilots feel this way. Is that how it is on the NWA side?
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