NWA/DAL 2000 Payrates

[Deadend]

Does anyone know where I can find pay scales from 2000? Just would be nice to see what we will never see again.

 

[Monster Buck]

Hopefully you were just kidding. Yeah they were great and it will be a while but this is exactly the kind of thinking that will hurt us in 2012.

 

[luckytohaveajob]

Referring to 2000 pay scale:

Hopefully you were just kidding. Yeah they were great and it will be a while but this is exactly the kind of thinking that will hurt us in 2012.

Are you serious you are afraid of getting paid? Are CEO and 400 plus management jobs getting paid more than they did in 2000? Have bonuses been paid for losing money since 2000?

Pay Me! Any pilot who argues they are not worth $400 per hour as a widebody captain and $250 for a narrow body just as SWA is paid is on crack.

Has health insurance gone down in price? Has gasoline gone down in price since 2000? Has housing in desirable places to live gone down in price since 2000 even though it is off the bubble pricing of 2006? Everything cost more than 2000 costs!

Yes transcon airline tickets still cost $200 a ticket just as they did in 1985 but that is management stupid fault. Not the pilots.

 

[luckytohaveajob]

Inflation is a hidden government controlled tax which always increases. If you don't get it I am not explaining it morons.

And there is no such thing as deflation in fiat currency system. It is a temporary phases prior to hyperinflation, double digit.

 

[Monster Buck]

Either I worded my post wrong or you quoted the wrong person. I was saying that Delta pilots thinking we can't get back the 2000 pay scales is what will hurt us in 2012.

 

[Deadend]

I am all for the 2K payrates. Just dont have them on my computer anymore. If anyone has them please post.

 

[BRA]

Here is some info that was used for research into the work that Allegiant needs to do. At the time not one Delta captain made under $200 per hour. I remember something about delta express that flew 737-200's at a lower rate in the late 90's but I have no idea how exactly that worked. I think they also got very quick upgrades. These are a sample of the old delta rates from 2000:

MD80CA 737NGFO
11 $235 $174
10 $232 $172
9 $229 $170
8 $227 $168
7 $225 $164
6 $223 $160
5 $221 $156
4 $219 $152
3 $217 $149
2 $215 $127
1 $213 $56

Guarantee was 65 hours. 12 year 777 CA rate was $320


As for NWA, the 3rd year DC-9 CA rate was $178, 3rd year FO DC-9 rate was $107.

 

[Superpilot92]

Here is some info that was used for research into the work that Allegiant needs to do. At the time not one Delta captain made under $200 per hour. I remember something about delta express that flew 737-200's at a lower rate in the late 90's but I have no idea how exactly that worked. I think they also got very quick upgrades. These are a sample of the old delta rates from 2000:

MD80CA 737NGFO
11 $235 $174
10 $232 $172
9 $229 $170
8 $227 $168
7 $225 $164
6 $223 $160
5 $221 $156
4 $219 $152
3 $217 $149
2 $215 $127
1 $213 $56

Guarantee was 65 hours. 12 year 777 CA rate was $320


As for NWA, the 3rd year DC-9 CA rate was $178, 3rd year FO DC-9 rate was $107.

But the NWA guarantee was higher correct? 75 hours

 

[Hamfighter]

People totally forget the minimum guarantees! Southwest not only has the highest 737 pay rates, but also a 79 hour guarantee for reserve (78 for lineholders)!
Just as important as pay rates in negotiations!!!

 

[vtwo]

I have said it before and will say it again


It IS NOT hourly rate we need to look at.
We need real facts. W2 at the end of the year, vs Time away from Home.
WTF......