NWA Continues Recalls!

[Schwanker]

NWA Recalls continue:

62 in October
55 in November
42 in December

That's 159 recalls in the 4th quarter alone on top of the spring recalls.
Moving in the right direction.

Schwanker

 

[CWASaab]

So at the end of the year where will this place the most junior active pilot in terms of hire date?

 

[EAP]

Congrats!! Great news to all.

 

[needsumluv]

Congrats guys finally some really good news

 

[philo beddoe]

I'm guessing that this will accelerate hiring at some of the regionals, particularly pinnacle.


How many furloughed NW pilots went there anyway?

 

[CWASaab]

I am pretty sure that for the NW furloughs at 9E there are restrictions on recalls to protect 9E. If my memory serves, no more than 5 a month, in NW seniority order, provided they have done their time (18 months I think, so that should not be an issue for most).

This is off the top of my head, perhaps a 9E or NW furlough can correct.

 

[Saluki Dawg]

This is really great news, and I don't want to jinx anything by saying this. However, do you realize that NWA, CAL, and DAL, will probably have all of their pilots recalled by the end of 05 or the beginning of 06? With OTS hiring starting again at somewhere other than the LCC's. That certainly isn't meant to be a jab at the LCC's, but I think it shows a slow trend toward recovery for the Airline Industry. Of course there may be a few casualties along the way like (U, ATA, etc.) I think CAL will be the first Legacy hiring, followed by NWA, and then DAL. DAL is obviously the big unknown with a CH 11 filing possible, but I think with the pension issues facing their pilots, that the mass exodus won't end the recalls over there anytime soon. Certainly good news for all. Let's hope the other network majors follow NWA's lead here.

 

[JohnDoe]

quote from saluki dawg:
"However, do you realize that NWA, CAL, and DAL, will probably have all of their pilots recalled by the end of 05 or the beginning of 06?"




And then we all woke up...........






philo beddoe:
"How many furloughed NW pilots went there anyway?"

I used to know the number but can't remember exactly. I don't think it was more than 30 or so out of 928 furloughs. Some have left even before recall at NW.

 

[ExAF]

So at the end of the year where will this place the most junior active pilot in terms of hire date?

This will put the recalls at late '99 hires. Not positive, but I think they are at the Nov '99 hire point.

 

[capt. megadeth]

THAT'S GREAT!

 

[pilotyip]

Another sign of the 2007 hiring boom

Here it comes, lots of pilots job in the next 2-3 years.

 

[#1 Windmilling]

Kit? Kit Darby? Is that you?

 

[pilotyip]

Not Kit, but he does have great product

It just a matter of fact years ending in 8 are great years to find a job, years ending 3 are bad years, never give up a senority number after a year ending in 9. So the push to peak out in 08 will start around June of 2007. NWA and CAl will be hiring off the street by that time. Every time NWA or CAL hires it creates 5 jobs.

 

[RogerMOSA]

Yip, two questions.....

When CAL, NWA hire again, what percentage will come from their affiliated regionals, from the street?

How will a repeal of 'Age 60' affect the window of opportunity?

RM

 

[Andy]

Congrats, NWA pilots!

As far as who hires off the street first, my bet's DAL due to the pension issue. There are rumblings of the top 2000 retiring to save their PLSA. If that occurs, I think that even with work rule changes, DAL will have to recall most (if not all) of their furloughees.

I read about excess capacity out there. How can there be a bunch of excess capacity when everyone's running record loads? It's not excess capacity; it's that all of the airlines are going for marketshare and want to drive the weak airlines out of business.

 

[Schwanker]

NWA Recalls continue:

62 in October
55 in November
42 in December

That's 159 recalls in the 4th quarter alone on top of the spring recalls.
Moving in the right direction.

Schwanker

ADD 15 MORE to the December Numbers.

Now 174 recalls for the quarter. What will January bring?

 

[AnimalTale]

Watch Out for STEENLAND.

STEENLAND=LORENZO

 

[Schwanker]

Watch Out for STEENLAND.

STEENLAND=LORENZO

Steenland is a much tougher character than Anderson. When it comes to protecting the turf against LCCs, Steenland makes Anderson look like a cream puff (Even though Anderson was more aggressive than most CEOs).

 

[AnimalTale]

Steenland is a much tougher character than Anderson. When it comes to protecting the turf against LCCs, Steenland makes Anderson look like a cream puff (Even though Anderson was more aggressive than most CEOs).

Swanker,

Do u think Steenland will do good for NWA? Just curious.....

 

[Schwanker]

Swanker,

Do u think Steenland will do good for NWA? Just curious.....

Tough to say. He plays hardball, both with the unions and with the competition. He's always up for the fight. Steenland was right next to Anderson during the decision processes over the last several years and has played a huge role in the current business strategies. Overall, I think the shareholders will like him because he'll fight on their behalf on all counts, as long as BK doesn't become the plan. My guess is the unions won't be so fond of him though. Wouldn't surprise me to see BK threatened in an attempt to get more concessions. By the way, the MEC just approved the TA and is sending it out to the membership for a vote. Rumored to have a 15% reduction in pay rates.

 

[DesertFalcon]

It just a matter of fact years ending in 8 are great years to find a job, years ending 3 are bad years, never give up a senority number after a year ending in 9. So the push to peak out in 08 will start around June of 2007. NWA and CAl will be hiring off the street by that time. Every time NWA or CAL hires it creates 5 jobs.

Ah! A prognosticator using the science of numbers.... Must be a numerologist?

 

[Ex737Driver]

CAL's last bid recalled 322 pilots, a good portion of those were at Expressjet. There are currently 113 pilots left on furlough and the word is the bid for CAL around FEB1 2005 will recall the remaining 113. After that there are 112 pilots from the last flow through that had a class date but because of 9/11 never left Express. The will go over as well sometime in 2005. For now the last group of Express pilots are the preferential interview pilots who were given conditional letters of employment. Their status is in limbo for now while both MEC's try to decide how to approach CAL to ensure their right to flow to CAL.

 

[Schwanker]

ADD 15 MORE to the December Numbers.

Now 174 recalls for the quarter. What will January bring?

54 Recalls for January already sent out. Hearing from a reliable source this number will go up for January and recalls will continue each month at "high rates." On a side note, NWA just recalled 600 FAs. Also hearing about a very large expansion in international flying.

228 Recalls now over 4 consecutive months with more to come. HR has even said they expect to be taking apps by end of 05. This would be great for all.

Schwanker