Nutjets Recruiting

[El Chupacabra]

Have you not heard... Winners never quit, and quitters never win?

We are winning. And we don't give a flying __________ what you have to say.

 

[westwind driver]

Have you not heard... Winners never quit, and quitters never win?

We are winning. And we don't give a flying __________ what you have to say.

Ever turn the tables? Yes I know I don't have to read this forum if I so choose not to. But I do like keeping track of what is going on within other segments of our industry. From one pilot to another, I can understand the time off, pay schedule issues and concerns about quality of life.

But there are those out there that could give a flying ____________ about what you good guys at the Fracs have to say. I know as a whole, pilots tend to bitch about every job we have ever had, from management to the serial number of the make/model we flew/have flown or are current flying.

All I can say is Best of Luck with the negotiations. I do sincerely hope it benefits everyone within the company, and all can move ahead working as a team. Utopia? Perhaps.

But in any case, enjoy your next flight, and have a smile on your face when you pull onto the ramp.

Keep the blue side up fellas!

 

[SeaSpray]

.... I have been in more airline unions than you have had jobs. You management hacks just don't get it!

And how did these airline unions do for the pilots? More pay? Better medical and retirement benefits? Fewer days worked and better duty rigs? Quicker advancement? Better QOL?

The simple fact that you're no longer with these airlines indicates that the unions failed or you would still be at one of them.

 

[Some Dude]

Southwest seems to be doing just fine with all their unions. They just have good management.

 

[SeaSpray]

Southwest seems to be doing just fine with all their unions. They just have good management.

Southwest Airlines Pilot Association is a Non-Profit organization; how about the Teamsters? ALPA?

 

[Nightmare67]

Have you not heard... Winners never quit, and quitters never win?

We are winning. And we don't give a flying __________ what you have to say.

Lets see now,
If winners never quit, and quitters never win, then, why do people say,"Quit while you ahead?"

 

[miles otoole]

Lets see now,
If winners never quit, and quitters never win, then, why do people say,"Quit while you ahead?"

Because people say that when you have been doing something you shouldn't have been or because you haven't yet been caught.

 

[Some Dude]

Southwest pilots union is a non-profit union. WTF does that have to do with the success of Southwest. What a stupid azz statement!

 

[SeaSpray]

Southwest pilots union is a non-profit union. WTF does that have to do with the success of Southwest. What a stupid azz statement!

You're pretty dense if you don't know the difference between a for-profit business and a non-profit organization, but let me make it simple for you. SWAPA is concerned only with the betterment of Southwest Airlines and it's pilots, not the care and feeding of some remote union leadership thugs who are busy raiding the pension fund.

Here's an example of what SWAPA does for Southwest; is this pretty close to what the Teamsters are doing for NJA?

http://www.apapdp.org/cms/staticfiles/pdf/SWAPA_pilot_comparison.pdf

 

[SeaSpray]

By the way, while you're researching what the Teamsters are doing for you and your company, why don't you ask your MEC if they could get you out of your current contract with the union ... or do the Teamsters have you locked-up tighter than a drum?

 

[Some Dude]

No your pretty dense because you no nothing about what the union has done to save our company millions of dollars. You really don't know anything about us at all.

 

[SeaSpray]

No your pretty dense because you no nothing about what the union has done to save our company millions of dollars. You really don't know anything about us at all.

Well, at least I know how to spell.

How about some examples of what the union has done for NJA other than encourage you to antagonize your customer base and render yourself non-competitive by raising your monthly maintenance fees well beyond that of the other fractionals so you can have 1.2 times NBAA salaries.

 

[Some Dude]

Guess what semen spray, go find out yourself. You don't work here so you really don't matter. I don't have time to spoon feed you.

 

[FLYLOW22]

How about some examples of what the union has done for NJA other than encourage you to antagonize your customer base and render yourself non-competitive by raising your monthly maintenance fees well beyond that of the other fractionals so you can have 1.2 times NBAA salaries.

Where does the 1.2 figure come in and where is the money?

 

[SeaSpray]

Guess what semen spray, go find out yourself. You don't work here so you really don't matter. I don't have time to spoon feed you.

So you don't really know of anything the union has done for the company, right? You just blindly pay your dues and do what you're told, the perfect union dupe.

 

[SeaSpray]

Where does the 1.2 figure come in and where is the money?

That's the figure ASAP has come up with on how much more productive NJA pilots are than regular run-of-the-mill NBAA corporate pilots, so they want to use 1.2 as a multiplier to 50th percentile NBAA pay for each type aircraft to determine NJA captain compensation.

Bill Boisture would probably like to know where the money's coming from, too.

 

[SLFLYHI]

Just out of curiosity are they hiring lower than their published mins since they need people so badly?

Whore.

 

[Some Dude]

Semen Spray I just told you it's none of your business. You don't work here. No go fish somewhere else.

 

[brewerdog]

little touchy there Dude

this is a public forum not just for NJA pilots is it not?

 

[SeaSpray]

Semen Spray I just told you it's none of your business. You don't work here. No go fish somewhere else.

You can knock off the sexual references, I don't swing that way; you'll have to find a boyfriend somewhere else.

I'm not fishing; I apparently know more about your union than you do. I'm asking questions to help you learn more about the Teamsters you so fervently embrace. Have you found out why when you broke off from IBT Local 284 you formed Local 1108 rather than an independent union of your own?

Pretty soon now you're going to figure out that Dave V., Peter B., Paul H., Roger B., and Mitch M. weren't the idiots your current union leadership made them out to be. They got you a 13% raise and up to a $25,000 signing bonus that you threw away. You could have taken the TA and had the money while you worked on a new agreement.

Your choice was to have the money now and get more money later or to just get some money later. You chose to just get some money later, probably on about the same timetable as you would have had if you had of accepted the TA and began working on a new agreement last October.