Nutjets Recruiting

[Bad Monkey!]

Here is a private message that was sent to me by the management mole known as CMH Troll, a.k.a. Family Guy:

Game ON as they say!

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You are confusing the the fab 5 with the professionals who are in place now.

The joke will be on you and the other management hacks when the dust clears. There is no stopping this train. If the company wants a train wreck, then that's what they will get. No regrets from this professional pilot who will be more than happy to STMFD, my life will go on.

It's just a game to you management hacks and we are more than willing to play! __________________


Unfortunately you are too brainwashed to think for yourself. You only see what the Union tells you and are not thinking for yourself. As you say, when the dust clears it will be interesting, but the joke will be on you. But you can celebrate the 3S or 4S and it will be a great success. But the success will depend on you. It will be what you make of it. Just look at it in the end and compare what the compensation per pilot per hour worked and see how much more it is going to be. It willnot be NBAA wages and if it is all no nothing in your eyes, then it will be nothing and your should start your plans to try and stmfd.

Warren will back the management in that situation and not the pilots. It would be a grave mistake for the Unionand the pilots to go there. But some people do not understand, and I believe that you are one of them.

MANAGEMNT WILL NOT DO A CONTRACT THAT PUTS THE LONG TERM VIABILITY OF THE COMAPNY AT RISK. Until you understand that you are just pi$$ing in the wind.


On the contrary mole, you are the one brain-washed by the company. I have been in more airline unions than you have had jobs. You management hacks just don't get it!

Now go back and crawl under your rock nancy boy.

 

[El Chupacabra]

I got one too.

 

[Beechman]

All,

I started visiting this web site to see if working at NJA would be a viable career move. Currently, I work at a small regional airline and am sick and tired of the way management runs their business a.k.a crisis management. I met a NJA guy on one of my flights and he said that NJA was a great place to work (he had a similiar airline backround). So I sent NJA a resume and over the weekend I received the application packet in the mail. I don't know what's better...stay where I'm at or try to get on with NJA?

It seems that pilots at NJA either love it or hate it. Aside from the labor dispute going on what's the company really like?

 

[El Chupacabra]

I would hold on to the packet and wait. Right now we are not encouraging anyone to apply.

 

[buttercup]

All,

I started visiting this web site to see if working at NJA would be a viable career move. Currently, I work at a small regional airline and am sick and tired of the way management runs their business a.k.a crisis management. I met a NJA guy on one of my flights and he said that NJA was a great place to work (he had a similiar airline backround). So I sent NJA a resume and over the weekend I received the application packet in the mail. I don't know what's better...stay where I'm at or try to get on with NJA?

It seems that pilots at NJA either love it or hate it. Aside from the labor dispute going on what's the company really like?

That NJA pilot who told you that is an idiot.. See the thing is there's a lot of ego in this industry.. It's hard to look a peer in the eye and tell him the truth.. It's easier to live in denial about one's current situation so this idiot was just trying to make himself feel good. There are some self-worthless pilots at NJA as evidenced by the 18 percent yes vote on the TA.. It's hos like that that have given me the drive and inspiration to make sure that one day I'm riding in the back of a share instead of being some little ho flying it in the front.. It's the same guys like this tool that you spoke to who encouraged men with families to come here, not laying out the truth to them.. That truth being that theyd be stuck at sub 30k a year pay for a few years.. I dont know what your goal is siir, t Best of luck with your decison and your future!! I just want you to have all the facts and make an educated decision.. You can plan onsitting as an F.O. for four to five years.... If the onlyr reason that you want to leave your small regional is for screwed up management than I'm not so sure NJA will be better for you!!

 

[brokeflyer]

ive been there 3 months and I will be gettin bypass pay already

 

[El Chupacabra]

Yes but there will be no future bypass drives.

 

[FAcFriend]

Yes but there will be no future bypass drives.

El, this has been said so many times. Of course there will be more bypass drives. the union loves them and management hates them. the union loves to get one up on mgt. The unionl loves to show the solidarity . There will be by pass drives until by pass pay is amended in the contract.

 

[El Chupacabra]

All can say is the official word is we are done with bypass drives.

Don't come here because you think you will receive bypass pay. Not gonna happen. Having people think they will receive bypass pay is what the company wants so they can recruit pilots.

Don't believe it.

And then when the new CBA comes out you will not get bypass either because the company wants to do away with it. 600 or more people senior will have to upgrade or take paycuts.

 

[FamilyGuy]

It's hos like that that have given me the drive and inspiration to make sure that one day I'm riding in the back of a share instead of being some little ho flying it in the front..

Let me know how that works out for you.

I'd be willing to bet everything I have that you'll never own a share.

Its simple really....No one will get rich and be able to afford a share working for someone else....

But go ahead and hold out for that level....it will only insure that everyone remains in a deep freeze

 

[dsptchrnja]

It seems that pilots at NJA either love it or hate it. Aside from the labor dispute going on what's the company really like?

Beechman, it's safe to say you shouldn't put much weight into your decision by the reprehensible information you read on this board by a few dogmatic zealots who are pursuing their own personal agenda and dominating nearly every post with poppycock.

The current negotiations will eventually be a memory. Talk to well-balanced people you know and trust, and who have been around a while.

What's it really like you ask? It's a company made of thousands of hard-working professionals who get the job done every day with respect for each other and a commitement to continue to make NJA successful for many years to come. The vast majority of the pilots I talk to every day are doing a great job. And there is no tension or demoralizing going on in the day to day operations like you see here from a minority of dissenting mavericks.

We do what we do best and let the union and company do their thing. The day the company bargains in poor faith or integrity comes into question because of dishonesty is the day I join the naysayers. I see it and live it every day and it's just not happening. And according to the NMB, it's not happening. We certainly have our share of growing pains, mistakes and even flounders once in a while but the direction of this company is positive and I wouldn't want to work anywhere else.

Good luck to you wherever you go.

 

[Beechman]

Thank's for the insight guys! It sure is a tough decision. I guess where ever one goes in life there is bound to be something to complain about, that's just reality.

 

[buttercup]

Let me know how that works out for you.

I'd be willing to bet everything I have that you'll never own a share.

Its simple really....No one will get rich and be able to afford a share working for someone else....

But go ahead and hold out for that level....it will only insure that everyone remains in a deep freeze

Hey big shot I'm glad you didn't bet me because you would have just lost everything you own.. By the way I can already afford a few shares in the Ultra and the Excel, but see in my line of work on my days off I need alot of cash on hand to keep generating more.. So now that you've made an asz out of yourself maybe you can go back to being a message board troll.. By the way you're not very good at what you do.. And save the BS about working for someone else I realized and took advantage of that along time ago.. PS.. I have nothing to prove to you but if you doubt the credibility of anything I just said you can ask my friend Diesel.. Later troll!!

 

[Diesel]

Remember all the people who are telling you the company is rosie and great are all people who DON"T fly the line. They have no idea what it's like on the road and never will understand. Yeah they might talk to us on the phone or look at some line on IJET but they will never truely understand what it's like on the road.

PM me your number i'll give you an honest breakdown of what is going on. I've got nothing to hide.

 

[Diesel]

By the way familyguy. I've actually seen as214's bank acct.

You could hit the lotto and still not even come close.

 

[buttercup]

Remember all the people who are telling you the company is rosie and great are all people who DON"T fly the line. They have no idea what it's like on the road and never will understand. Yeah they might talk to us on the phone or look at some line on IJET but they will never truely understand what it's like on the road.

PM me your number i'll give you an honest breakdown of what is going on. I've got nothing to hide.

Beech.\,

I would take Diesel up on his offer.. It is free advice and it will help you to make the best decision possible for yourself and your family.. You deserve to know about all the pros and cons before you commit for two years!!

 

[FamilyGuy]

By the way familyguy. I've actually seen as214's bank acct.

You could hit the lotto and still not even come close.

Good for as214. I'm glad he's doing well. It's important that everyone plan for the future and be able to pay the bills once they decide to stop working.

While I'm probably nowhere close to as214, I still try to plan for my family's future by maxing out my 401k....another great bennie that the company gives us.

Granted its not a pension, but I personally havent found too many companies with a 401k as generous as NetJets.

 

[El Chupacabra]

Do you really want to quit your job to go someplace just to go on strike while on probation?

Citation Shares is hiring. www.citationshares.com . Last I heard you can upgrade in a yr and start at a pay = to yr 6 here.

 

[Diesel]

Beech--

Familyguy, cmhtroll and other company men who don't work the line think it's all sun and roses. They end up back at their home at night safe and sound. Not in some sh!tbox cab trying to figure out what language the guy is speaking and where the hotel is.

I'm not bitter at the company far from it. I truely like to work here but it seems that the company just doesn't want to acknowledge what we do. (and no that's not union rhetoric that's from all the emails all day long) I just don't like people talking about my job who have no idea what it takes to do my job.

Look i can't roof a building so i'm not about to tell you how to do it. But i do fly the line and i can tell you all about it. You'll get an honest opinion. I'll give you a couple of different phone numbers so you get the most out of the calls and can make an Honest decision.

I'll probably lean on the side of the company but then another memo comes out from some intern asking me to do their job for them.

I'm sure all the company men will get on here and cut and paste my words to make themselves look better. Whatever

 

[westwind driver]

this McJob sucks.

Then quit and find something that more suites your needs.

your McAttitude sux