NTSB info on SWA at LGA crash

[Pilotbob3]

I heard number 1 or 2 at the top of the base avoidance list to fly with!!!

 

[freightdogfred]

Well, from what I have gleaned here...

1) The Captain really knew how to bid. I've been told many times on this forum you make staggering sums over there, yet only had to fly 2600 hrs in six years to do it. Pretty awesome
2) The Captain was a she, or possible a he-she, but not a he
3) He/she was high avoidance, 2nd highest in the base? wow He/she must have been really fugly, or smelly, or not a good pilot/overbearing/disliked unicorns
4) The approach was stable, on speed/profile till 400 ft when he/she took over, and things went to hell.

As far as LGA approaches go, it does not get any easier than a straight-in to RNWY 4. I imagine he/she's gonna have some splainin to do.

 

[PanPan]

maybe former airtran,

Not according to a very reliable source.

 

[Luv2BFlyin]

So what are we talking about here? Butch? Old lady? Smoking hot? What?

Short, round, blond, mid-forties.

I really don't know, but if it was, karma came back and bit her for telling me what a great deal I got and to enjoy my 50% raise. Then, later at the bar BOS crew hotel, asking me if she could try my wings! That's what really pissed me off.

 

[dollacrackho]

So she was a pudgy unicorn hater that loved to scarf other peoples wings? And it was her time of the month. I sounds like an accident waiting to happen.

 

[GogglesPisano]

So then the question becomes, why did the capt take control of a perfectly stabilized appch at 400'?!?!?!

Warrior spirit?



















Oh, come on! Lighten up, for poop's sake!:beer:

 

[humveedriver]

I've been really trying to figure out how this happened. Because if it happens to one of us, it normally means it can happen to any of us, no matter how bullet proof we think we are. The only thing that makes sense to me is some kind of bad info from the HUD (user error or otherwise) or maybe the CAWS (the 100, 50, 30.. voice) wasn't working and the flare didn't happen. I realize both are a stretch, but those are two things SWA has that could potentially contribute to a non flare landing. I imagine everyone is all lawyered up and this is going to suck.

 

[Golden Falcon]

I've been really trying to figure out how this happened. Because if it happens to one of us, it normally means it can happen to any of us, no matter how bullet proof we think we are. The only thing that makes sense to me is some kind of bad info from the HUD (user error or otherwise) or maybe the CAWS (the 100, 50, 30.. voice) wasn't working and the flare didn't happen. I realize both are a stretch, but those are two things SWA has that could potentially contribute to a non flare landing. I imagine everyone is all lawyered up and this is going to suck.

stable approach w tailwind, 3deg nose up or thereabouts...wind changes to headwind, airplane balloons, nose is instinctively dropped...(too far?)..nosewheel contacts first...the rest is history....why is the next question on everybody's mind...fuel state? big black nasty off the far end of the runway? brain fart? boxes and cvr will tell all....

 

[funnyman12]

Rumor is that the FO wanted to go around and the Captain did not. Last time I checked your supposed to be stabilized by 1000'agl not 400'. Also heard the final flap setting was 58 seconds prior to impact. If true, that alone would would fit the definition of unstabilized.

 

[CRJ puppy]

stable approach w tailwind, 3deg nose up or thereabouts...wind changes to headwind, airplane balloons, nose is instinctively dropped...(too far?)..nosewheel contacts first...the rest is history....why is the next question on everybody's mind...fuel state? big black nasty off the far end of the runway? brain fart? boxes and cvr will tell all....

Hee. Hee. He said "fart".