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Now AA is talking with JAL......show us the $$$$--article

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AP Source: American Airlines talking with JAL
By DAVID KOENIG
Associated Press
2009-09-13 08:06 AM


American Airlines parent AMR Corp. is negotiating for closer ties and possibly an investment in financially troubled Japan Airlines Corp., according to a person familiar with the talks.
American would like to form a joint business venture with JAL in which the two carriers would seek antitrust immunity to work closely in setting schedules and prices for service around the world, according to the person, who spoke Saturday on condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the talks.

The negotiations, which grew more intense over the past four weeks and included meetings in Texas and Tokyo, raised the specter of a bidding war for a piece of JAL.

Delta Air Lines Inc., the world's biggest airline operator, also is in preliminary discussions about buying a stake in JAL for about $300 million. Delta could become a leading shareholder in JAL and get coveted access to Haneda Airport, which is close Tokyo's business district, according to a person briefed on the Delta situation.

A spokesman for Fort Worth, Texas-based AMR, Roger Frizzell, said, "We are in discussions at the senior executive level in Japan with JAL." He declined to comment further.

The person familiar with AMR's negotiations said that while AMR might invest in JAL, the two sides had not settled on an amount or the nature of the investment. AMR could buy a stake in JAL or invest in senior debt that could be converted to stock, the person said.

A cash infusion would help JAL, which reported a $1 billion loss in its most recent quarter.

American and JAL already have a so-called code-sharing agreement in which they sell seats on each other's flights. If they won immunity from antitrust laws, they could cooperate in setting prices and schedules. For example, instead of each operating a Chicago-to-Tokyo flight around the same time, they could stagger the flights to maximize traffic while splitting the revenue.

Delta, which declined to comment, doesn't have a Japanese partner. A Delta-JAL hookup would raise doubts about JAL's ability to remain in oneworld, an alliance of airlines that includes American and British Airways. Delta is in another alliance, called SkyTeam, which also includes Air France-KLM.

A Japanese newspaper reported Saturday that JAL has entered talks with Air France-KLM. Yomiuri, Japan's top-selling daily, said JAL hoped to expand its business in Europe with through Air France-KLM.

JAL officials said Friday that they were considering various tie-ups with a wide variety of potential partners, but nothing had been decided.

JAL is in the midst of major restructuring. The airline posted its biggest-ever quarterly loss of 99 billion yen ($1 billion) in the April-to-June period. It has forecast a net loss of 63 billion yen for the current fiscal year, which ends next March, and plans to cut the number of flights and slash costs by 53 billion yen during this fiscal year and another 100 billion yen in the next year.




Hey, we will gladly allow you to buy into JAL at a higher price, if you would please sell us Terminal 8 at JFK.......


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
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If AMR gives the money it is going to put them in a weakened state. This is a high stakes game of poker.
 
I would not get too excited about AMR being in a weakened state. They ain't Ual or Lcc for that matter. They are a brutal competitor and can't stand being 2nd fiddle. If they were to go Ch11 that would be TERRIBLE for Dal, and more importantly us pilots. The APA would cave instantly on pay and workrules and agree to some form of a resurected B-scale that will make the 80s look like the good old days.



If AMR gives the money it is going to put them in a weakened state. This is a high stakes game of poker.
 
If AMR gives the money it is going to put them in a weakened state. This is a high stakes game of poker.

Yeah- and DAL buying them would be pure genuis! Let's see if we can lose 1.5 Billion per quarter!
-Synergy!!
 
Crj,

Why do you care so much about DAL?? You almost act like you work here.

It's a twisted obsession of his. He's obsessed with General Lee as well.

Probably busted the interview during the psych eval. Prepare for denials and "never wanted to work for Delta ......"
 
It's a twisted obsession of his. He's obsessed with General Lee as well.

Probably busted the interview during the psych eval. Prepare for denials and "never wanted to work for Delta ......"


Well guess what? He will NEVER be a member of my fan club. (*BTW, if anyone wants to join it, it will be free for DL pilots, $15 a year for DCI pilots, $50 a year for non-Delta "family" pilots, with the exception of SWA pilots, which have to pay $100 a year since they can afford it)


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
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Delta, which declined to comment, doesn't have a Japanese partner. A Delta-JAL hookup would raise doubts about JAL's ability to remain in oneworld, an alliance of airlines that includes American and British Airways. Delta is in another alliance, called SkyTeam, which also includes Air France-KLM.

A Japanese newspaper reported Saturday that JAL has entered talks with Air France-KLM. Yomiuri, Japan's top-selling daily, said JAL hoped to expand its business in Europe with through Air France-KLM.

Delta's already tie up with AF/KLM and JAL's desire to get in on the european action definately gives DAL a leg up on American in any potential hook up or majority stake. Dont be surprised if JAL ends up in the SkyTeam group.
 
Yeah- and DAL buying them would be pure genuis! Let's see if we can lose 1.5 Billion per quarter!
-Synergy!!

Who's we? That 12 year old boy you keep locked up in your trailer?
Pure genius is you posting under both loser names tanker clown and this one!
Back to your rock, troll!
 

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