glasspilot1
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Delta and Northwest: "Two Great Airlines, One Great Future".
Hmmmmm... Now where have I heard that one before...Hmmmm?
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Delta and Northwest: "Two Great Airlines, One Great Future".
While I agree that the Diesel 9s will eventually need to be parked, I think that NWA plans to park them over time with or without a merger. That's what Compass is for. The fact that a potential Delta-NWA merger has few overlapping hubs (except MEM/CVG) translates into fewer needs to reduce redundancies.
Delta and NWA do not compete directly on many routes except to/from the hubs - right? Maybe some random flights to Hawaii but not many other routes. You don't find NWA flying between LAX and JFK. You don't flying Delta flying flights between SEA and NRT. The point is that while there might be some basic redundancies (back office, administrative, one HQ will need to be reduced), I don't see the need to discontinue many flights beyond the inter-hub traffic. You know that another airline would just fill that void. If DAL reduced the number of flights between ATL and DTW, Air Tran would just increase its numbers between those city pairs.
The main benefit of this combination would be complementary route systems - NWA adds two upper Midwest hubs and a fantasic Asian network. Delta adds Europe, JFK, the Southeast, Latin America and a West Coast presence that NWA lacks. Both are members of the same code-share alliance and both will benefit from working closer with Air France/KLM.
Anyone who thinks UAL would be a better partner than NWA (like Gordon Buffoon) is on crack. I don't see the need for the "sky is falling" mentality in this case - sure, there will probably be some change but I think it would be minor (beyond headquarters reduction and administrative "synergies") because the route systems are so complementary... The regionals have the least to gain, however, because you probably don't need as many regional partners - especially if either MEM/CVG is reduced.
And the madness continues! Furloughs will be on the way, flying is going to be cut and that's just the begginning! It is going to be UGLY!
Right now both companies need pilots, except when the merge is complete they will start parking dc9's faster than you can imagine. They will want to get the fleet in order ASAP to keep costs down...ie training, sims, aircraft parts etc. Man, I would not want to be on the bottom of THAT list! Good Luck to all of those involved...you might want to get your resume's updated also....
I disagree. IF the feds approve the merger (and that's a big "if") it will be on the condition that they can't eliminate competition and cut service. Right now, on the DTW-ATL route NWA flies DC-9s and Delta flies RJs with a couple of Maddogs thrown in. If these overlapping routes move to mainline equipment, the RJs will be redeployed elsewhere. But more likely, the routes like DTW-ATL and ATL will remain the same so as not to arouse the antitrust watchdogs. And the current capacity on those routes already seems "right sized" anyhow. I doubt they will decrease frequency on these business routes just to eliminate the RJs.
More likely a lot of the short DC-9 routes will be cut, especially the intra Michigan routes like DTW-GRR, DTW-MBS, and DTW-FNT. Thee routes will be going to RJs or even turboprops, as they already should have.
There will be plenty of capacity for RJs post merger. They will just be used in more of a traditional commuter role, and for the long thin routes, not to and from large cities like they do now.
This is Hilarious.... The General and some of you others actually think you have a say. Alpa will get hood-winked again, fall for it and then slap themselves silly for agreeing to such a dumb idea.
I disagree. IF the feds approve the merger (and that's a big "if") it will be on the condition that they can't eliminate competition and cut service.
It doesn't really matter, but our A330 CA rate is $161.52 + $5.17 Intl Override (no domestic flying on the 330). I was thinking your 75/6 domestic was around $158.
We also got a raise on 1/1/08.