No poll.

[Timebuilder]

I'm not here because of my family, or lack thereof.

I'm here because people are exchanging information, and I now have a little more time than I did when I was flying. Right now, with my home studio, 90% of what I need to do is right here. Sometimes I have to go to NYC or Philly for an on-camera audition, or just if the client has hired a casting house for the job. There is a lot of variety, and its very subjective.

Lately, I have spent adddtional time here for two reasons: one, it is easy to multitask here, while posting. Two, and this will really leak off Capt Tex, but I have found that pilots, as a group, are a pretty self-trusting bunch of people. They need to be exposed to the gospel. There's a lot of denial, and as I see tonight, a lot of anger. Some pilots shouldn't be flying if they feel so bent out of shape, but I'm not the FAA. Maybe it's because flying is such a technical profession, I don't know, but some can only see as far as their crew schedule.

At any rate, I see this as a way to actively help people who are seeking some truth about God. Pilots have kind of an adversarial relationship to God. Many say they don't believe, but when a friend is killed in a crash, do they ask thenselves why? Do the go to the funeral? Suddenly God, who didn't exist the day before, suddenly becomes relevant.

A lot of people have had misconceptions that need to be addressed. Things like the constitutional separation of church and state, which is also relevant to pilots who want to be a part of an informed electorate. So, I help them out when I can, in a small way.

You see, you only see the me here on the site.

You needn't concern yourself with me, nor I with you, outside of this forum.

 

[dtzl]

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I have found that pilots, as a group, are a pretty self-trusting bunch of people. They need to be exposed to the gospel. There's a lot of denial, and as I see tonight, a lot of anger. Some pilots shouldn't be flying if they feel so bent out of shape, but I'm not the FAA. Maybe it's because flying is such a technical profession, I don't know, but some can only see as far as their crew schedule.
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Please GOD, don't let him ever get hired at my airline!

 

[Dieterly]

There's a lot of denial,

Sir, you are a true nut case

 

[Timebuilder]

Sir, you are a true nut case

Thank you counselor.

I rest my case.

 

[Dash8]

pilots, as a group, are a pretty self-trusting bunch of people. They need to be exposed to the gospel.

Many say they don't believe, but when a friend is killed in a crash, do they ask thenselves why? Do the go to the funeral? Suddenly God, who didn't exist the day before, suddenly becomes relevant.

TB, i've been exposed to the gospel, and I don't need it, plain and simple. so please don't speak for what other people may or may not need.

I thankfully haven't had anyone die in a crash yet. But i have attended funerals and it has absolutely nothing to do with god, it has to do with paying my respects for someone that is no longer with us.

that being said, i do enjoy your contributions to this board (for the most part ) and think it's good that you were able to donate to help maintain that which many people use, I myself really can't afford it because of financial difficulties/tightness right now, but would happily through some change in the till if/when i can.

 

[Timebuilder]

so please don't speak for what other people may or may not need.

Whle I'm glad that you were "exposed", others can't know the need if they haven't been afforded the same opportunity. According to the Bible, everyone needs to make a choice. In order to do that, you have to know what choice there is to make.

 

[Flying Illini]

At the risk of being attacked myself, I am going to say what I see:
Timebuilder is standing up for his beliefs, in no way does he seem to be forcing them upon anyone (I've read some of his posts and I didn't feel like I was being forced to "convert."). Most of the rest of you who have posted seem to just be attacking an individual for his beliefs. It's fine to not see eye to eye on an issue, however, both sides need to grow up! TB is standing up for his beliefs, others are attacking his beliefs. It takes guts to stand up for what you believe in (no matter what it is) while at the same time, it is VERY easy to attack others and their beliefs.
Let it go! Everyone is entitled to their own opinion (once you've stated it, stop restating it over and over again in multiple posts)! By arguing it till this post is 10 pages long is not going to make either side give in!

 

[enigma]

Re: catagories

I think that in the 'general' section it should be anything goes (within reason of course) that as aviation proffesionals or enthusiasts, we also have other things to talk about besides stricktly flying/aircraft stuff.

There are other topic sections for various types of discussions.

bbq, toon, or chemtrails could be discussed in the 'general' header

since there's FAR, furlough, regional, major, fractional, etc sections discussions of those types can go in their respective catagories, but leave general available for off aviation subject matters

that's what i think
there's far too many interesting threads in the general header to forsake them all.

What he said.

Plus this. Because we are often paired with persons because of chance (bid system), pilots need to avoid controversy in the workplace; this forum gives us a place to get into discussions that do not belong in the cockpit and therefore serves a purpose. The forum is sort of a "no consequence" crewroom. Here, one can espouse a viewpoint that would create too much unease in the workplace. As long as the forum avoids open pornography and obvious indecency, I say let it happen.

regards,
enigma

 

[Timebuilder]

By arguing it till this post is 10 pages long is not going to make either side give in!

I agree.

The reason the pages go on so long is that when someone joins in and asks a question, it deserves a good answer.

Sometimes, a number of people join in throughout the life of a thread. I can't, nor would I want to, "force" anyone to believe anything. That's for someone besides myself.

And, yes, I have enjoyed my time here. I hope I was able to help enlighten.

 

[mar]

It's the topic drift that gets you.

You know, as always, it's just a matter of a few bad apples.

It's like the Bush Bashin' thread--that was great fun until it briefly drifted into another religious debate.

And don't get me wrong! I don't mind the debate. I don't even mind it's religious. I just get pretty tired of the eventual, no, *inevitable*, drift into religion.

If Super80 and Timebuilder can actually count the square footage on the head of that pin then I say, "More power to 'em."

I can easily scroll through tons of pedantic detail and get the main gist.

But yeah, leave the forum alone and let's all practice a little more attention to the actual topic without the RABID need to have the last word.

END OF DISCUSSION!

Just kidding. I'm outta town til the weekend so y'all can have the last bloody word.

Peace.