Nji Gpac

[jenex]

I don't believe a minority group of 350 pilots will be fairly represented by a majority group of 2800 pilots.
This is about wanting more higher paying seats in the scope of the contract. Then when the contract is up for renogation in 2016, there will be no more fences left. The will of the many will out weigh those of the few.

 

[Gruman Fan]

What I don't understand is how GPAC intends to approach the situation. Not having legal and recognized representation throws a wrench into the works.

Cav,

NJASAP leadership is way out in front of this thing. They are already in contact with the organizers and I know personally that communications are wide open!

The only thing the GPAC organizers have to show is a legal, fair and honest method in electing the GPAC. Once these 4 people step forward, they are automatically protected under the NMB because the NJASAP leadership will accept them and the method they were formed under. Management could mess with the organizers, but they cant touch the GPAC members.

Management can also choose (a mistake if they do) to totally ignore GPAC and shut the door. It would be ashame for that to happen, but it doesnt change anything because GPAC will be "NJASAP" for the interm.

This is an absolutely brilliant plan, and Im smiling from ear to ear because for once, it seems that pilots out smarted management. Sorry, just had to say that.

To follow on Trolls line of thought:

• Why hasnt management sent a letter to the organizers asking for a meeting if they are so concerned about GPAC?

• Why havent we heard "ANYTHING" of substance from management about the intergration or the process?

• Why is management willfully violating the NJASAP contract and sending NJA FO's through upgrade class for the GIV?

• Why hasnt management contact one of the dozen or so NJI pilots who stepped up and asked to help with the integration process?

For years senior management kept the two pilot groups seperate and fearful of each other by playing one another off. They didn't want us together for a very good reason... and we are seeing why; once together, NetJets pilots will be a powerful voice. NJA pilots pushed and pushed and pushed (while NJI pilots did nothing, sorry 'bout that :erm and broke the wall down. Now its our turn NJI guys and gals. Step up and be people of character! Register, nominate, and vote. Bring GPAC to the table. The union has extended an invitation.

 

[ozpilot]

• Why is management willfully violating the NJASAP contract and sending NJA FO's through upgrade class for the GIV?

Would love to hear more about this! If its true the proverbial will hit the fan on the NJA side!

 

[wolfpackpilot]

I don't believe a minority group of 350 pilots will be fairly represented by a majority group of 2800 pilots.

I totally disagree, (respectfully).

There will be no minority in the future if we do this thing right the 1st time. I have no interest in being part of a divided group, NONE!

I'm willing to learn from my past, put aside a little anger (no NetJetsWife, we're not gonna be buds), respect the leaders of NJASAP, stick my hand out and make sure we integrate two professional groups of pilots with one collective voice that speaks for all without holding grudges from the past.

My declaration (this is serious):

I, Wolfpackpilot, do hereby state that from this date forward I will never refer to any pilot (to include NetJets Europe) that operates a QS tail aircraft for parent company NetJets in any fashion other than "a NetJets pilot".


My rant (this is not serious):

Now... please support GPAC and get on board this bus, its leaving KSAV and will soon be arriving in KCMH. Approximate travel time is 1 to 24 months. All those pilots holding valid GPAC support cards will be given 1st choice on bus seating, where we stop for gas and snacks, bathroom rights, sightseeing stops, and movies played on the DVD system. All other pilots will be given a bag lunch, a mason jar, and placed under the bus.

 

[Going2Golf]

:
1. Why do the construction plans for building in CMH have an area labeled as NJI?
2. Flight Safety has a GIV and a G-50 series simulators on order for placement in their CMH(NJA) facility. They are being told to not issue a press release.
3. NJI was told that no-one would be forced to move, not there isn't a move ever going to happen. Go back and read the leader notes or info releases.

Troll,

Having a area in the "campus" when its built in CMH makes sense, its not going to be locked off behind closed doors, probably just some class rooms set aside for training and such.

As for Sims on order for CMH, that makes sense to centralize training and if they are building the largest FSI in the world why not put all of the training under one roof.

NJI pilots will probably not be forced to move, the same can not be said for the instructors at FSI-SAV. If they want to keep instructing for NJI they might have to move to CMH. Or are you counting the contract employees of a separate company as NJI employees?

 

[Mountain Troll]

G2G. I most likely wasn't clear on my point. NJI management has other ideas about this being a smooth integration. They are withholding information about the Okatie office future. Real estate and the sims are proof positive that NJI management is avoiding the truth being known so that those who work in the swamp don't get jobs elsewhere. This is a very common tactic from companies prior to re-locating. Of course it make sense to centralize operations and training. And the NJA GIV FO's who are upgrading ahead of their union brothers??? Who is going to address this? (sorry Diesel) My point was sarcastic, but was trying to jump onboard the GPAC and NJASAP collaboration to not let NJI management take advantage of two sides not talking for their own self serving benefit. Has it occurred to anyone that all the managers on the integration management team are RS yes men?? There needs to be a collaborative voice in there so no-one leaves any dollars on the table!

 

[Diesel]

Just because you go through upgrade training at NJI doesn't mean you are actually upgrading. You don't upgrade/ get paid until your plane is on property. Its not really the same process that NJA has.