NJI and NJA Merger Official

[Diesel]

No of course not.

123.45 was lit up the other night with all the airline dispatchers giving the play by play.

it wasn't needed though because you knew boston was going to win regardless.

But such a slamming? It must hurt.

 

[Some guy]

I agree that because of our growth it eventualy became impractical to call our schedulers and inquire about x, y or z. But by limiting pilot contact with the schedulers, it also cut out the A-Team factor that was fairly prevalent 5+ years ago. There were even rumors, at that time, of schedulers being "compensated" for extended days, etc. I'm not sure if any of this was true, but it seemed that way sometimes. And trust me, I'm not saying that the A-Team has disappeared either -- but they have definitely had their legs chopped off at the knees.

A smaller organization like NJI, obviously, has some advantages. I'm not convinced that we could now implement such a thing at NJA, though, given our size. A "culture improvement" is very much needed, however.

Most of the Schedulers in Okatie came from CMH. Same people, different environment. It's easier to be a little more personal when you are talking to the same people (NJI) every time. When NJA had the super growth spurt a couple of years ago, there was a long transition time when plans and processes changed. Add to that the extra effort it took for them during the pilot contract negotiations...It wasn't easy for anyone. It was tough for most of us; however, things are much different (mostly for the better) than they were during those times.

I am not a scheduler, but have worked closely with them for 7+ years. As far as compensation for the "A-Team", different things were investigated by an outside entity and was found to be untrue.

I really hope that the problems all of you experienced in the past are a things of the past. NJ is still growing and still working the bugs out of our processes. Being that NJ was the first in the business, we had to write the books, rules, etc. There was nobody else we could model ourselves after.

SG

 

[ghostrider64]

Wow I've been gone a very long time but nothing really ever changes does it?

We "all" have letters from management. And we "ALL" read into them as we wish to.

The reality is....someone is being lied to.

Any takers on who that is this time?

 

[NJApilot]

Every NJA and NJI pilot need to get closer to a corporate/charter salary level in the G. SO, get in the door, wait a little bit, quietly get the majority numbers up, play nice and then put our foot DOWN and get the numbers up again!

Agree with you fully. Well said!

 

[208starcheck]

Wow I've been gone a very long time but nothing really ever changes does it?

We "all" have letters from management. And we "ALL" read into them as we wish to.

The reality is....someone is being lied to.

Any takers on who that is this time?

???? What exactly are you talking about? Is this in reference to the NJA/NJI merger? If so, you might want to do a little reading.

 

[FLYLOW22]

Thanks Dude!

You called me "dude". Sweet!

 

[ce750drvr]

As far as compensation for the "A-Team", different things were investigated by an outside entity and was found to be untrue.
SG

I have to call BS on this one.

That entity had ties to people in the company. Ask Chip what happened to his pay pal account on his "website" when the investigation started. I know for a FACT that Chip accepted money in his pay pal account for "favors". Have a friend that did it on several occasions which started the unfolding of our friendship. Ask Chip how can he look himself in the mirror in the morning, when after punching a hole in the wall at work, he brought the NAACP to his "termination" meeting and used the word "racist" to keep his job. We have some great people upstairs, but they are outnumbered by the idiots.

 

[Some guy]

I have to call BS on this one.

That entity had ties to people in the company. Ask Chip what happened to his pay pal account on his "website" when the investigation started. I know for a FACT that Chip accepted money in his pay pal account for "favors". Have a friend that did it on several occasions which started the unfolding of our friendship. Ask Chip how can he look himself in the mirror in the morning, when after punching a hole in the wall at work, he brought the NAACP to his "termination" meeting and used the word "racist" to keep his job. We have some great people upstairs, but they are outnumbered by the idiots.

Maybe you know some things I don't...Fine, so be it. Initials (CW) instead of actual names work just as well.

There are alot of good people upstairs. To make a statement (idiots) like this is uncalled for. If the system has a problem, don't blame the people. We're all in this together.

SG

 

[ce750drvr]

Maybe you know some things I don't...Fine, so be it. Initials (CW) instead of actual names work just as well.

There are alot of good people upstairs. To make a statement (idiots) like this is uncalled for. If the system has a problem, don't blame the people. We're all in this together.

SG

Ok, Calvin Hermius Inglacious Percival did it. Who cares. Maybe you and others do, but honestly he is an idiot IMO. Also, there are some idiots upstairs. I didn't say all of them were. The system has a problem due in part because of said idiots. BTW, I have SEVERAL friends upstairs who are top notch and they tend to agree. Besides, I like the word idiot. Isn't that a word for generous in another language?

 

[Fozzy]

Also, there are some idiots upstairs. I didn't say all of them were.

There are also some idiots on the line. :0

 

[NJACrewservicer]

I have to call BS on this one.

That entity had ties to people in the company. Ask Chip what happened to his pay pal account on his "website" when the investigation started. I know for a FACT that Chip accepted money in his pay pal account for "favors". Have a friend that did it on several occasions which started the unfolding of our friendship. Ask Chip how can he look himself in the mirror in the morning, when after punching a hole in the wall at work, he brought the NAACP to his "termination" meeting and used the word "racist" to keep his job. We have some great people upstairs, but they are outnumbered by the idiots.

That's uncalled for and untrue....

 

[RNObased]

That's uncalled for and untrue....

And you can set the record straight how???? Dying to hear this.

 

[netjetwife]

NJW: ....The general impression I receive from almost all of the crewmembers on the road (and my own impression) is, "What value-added benefit do we really receive from the IBT anyway?" Other than IBT's (potential) financial resources in the event of a major labor dispute/strike, I can think of no other benefit ...Exactly. Instead they bring the baggage of their tarnished reputation which forces 1108, who has an excellent record, to defend their good name.
Keep in mind, we pay IBT roughly $90,000 per month in dues. That figure left in my mouth (and leaves to this day) a very bad taste....and I can only assume that many others (at least, those "in the know") feel the same. I couldn't agree more. It's very easy to look at that monthly amount and think of all the things the NJ pilots could do with it to directly benefit the group.

I believe, on this issue, that the writing is on the wall unless the IBT miraculously steps up and wins us over, with something along the lines of a retirement benefit package or other ($$) incentive.

It would take a miracle because I don't think the IBT would offer anything that had a value in excess of the monthly dues; therefore, the pilots would just be funding whatever the IBT chose for them to get. I think most would prefer to see all of their dues remain in-house under their own control to provide programs of their own choosing that would be there permanently, not just when de-certification was threatened. I think the NJ pilots (both A & I) deserve a union that operates the same way they do--with class and professionalism.

 

[Dirty Dingus]

Hey DD
I am curious as to if this is really an option. I am not familiar with union stuff, but how easy is it for NJA to vote them out and start an in house union? I was told that it takes a majority vote to get a union in, but 100% vote to remove them.....kinda like a mother-in-law coming to stay with you because your wife said it was so, but she isn't leaving until you both kick her out.

Not sure either, I know nothing about the union stuff. But hell those NJA boys(and NJW)make it sound so GOOD, I'm going to give up my pizza delivery job and become a pilot at Netjets!!! HOW do I get my name in the hat?????
Someone help PLEASE P.S. I think that NJW is most likely correct.

 

[Diesel]

Mmmmm Chocolate Chip.








Man can't we have a new contract already so NJW would go away. I get it I get it rising tide lifts all boats, your husband is underpaid, you volunteer, yes we got war and peace version, where the heck is waldo anyway?


BTW i want to thank those who have PM'd me to give me affirmations of hope for NJW. May she get the help she needs.

Insert njw constant quoting and last words.....3....2.....1.. now