NJA orders 50 Phenom 300s

[206amphib]

What do you mean, "For the pax & crew, separate bathroom facility"? I don't think there's room for that in a plane so small. Or am I misreading you?

I think he means just that it has a partition like a midsize would?

 

[CA1900]

Ah, OK, that makes sense... (versus a potty seat)

I read it as separate lav facilities for the crew (like a G5), but that's more likely.

 

[Mike Jenvey]

Yep, a partition - sorry, my bad English!!

Only passed my ICAO Level 6 a few weeks ago too - don't ask, born & dragged up in UK, stupid licencing rules!!! And I used to teach reeding & righting at the RAF Officer College!!

Phenom layout, etc, via here.

 

[RP170]

APU an option?

 

[Mike Jenvey]

APU? I don't think so, can't find any reference to one - from the flight test link, it says:

Pre-start flows were minimal, with the standard vapour cycle air conditioner keeping the cockpit cool. Once the external power cart was disconnected, the engines were started from internal battery power alone.

Can't see one hidden away in this cut-away picture either.

 

[FLYLOW22]

The Phenom 350 Platinum Edition that NetJets ordered 125 of will have several notable differences that set it apart from the standard Phenom 300.

An APU would not surprise me.

 

[BoilerUP]

The P300 is still "just a light jet" - and as such the standard APU is the RH engine.

If Embraer put an APU on NJA aircraft then they'd almost HAVE to offer it on other customers' airframes...

 

[Mike Jenvey]

There is conjecture over here that instead of Garmin avionics they are requesting either Honeywell or Collins. Probably some other changes too - presumably for robustness.

If they can squeeze an APU in, it will have to be a really small model!

 

[DAS at 10/250]

There is conjecture over here that instead of Garmin avionics they are requesting either Honeywell or Collins. Probably some other changes too - presumably for robustness.

If they can squeeze an APU in, it will have to be a really small model!

I've read nothing but good on the Garmin products, especially the new G5000.

Collins would be fine, but for the love of all things holy, no more Honeywell!uke:

 

[BoilerUP]

No way Embraer is going to put PL21/Fusion or Primus Elite/Epic in the P300.

And increased robustness? In what? The airplane already has a maintenance interval double that of Citations...

 

[gutshotdraw]

I've read nothing but good on the Garmin products, especially the new G5000.

Collins would be fine, but for the love of all things holy, no more Honeywell!uke:

That's HoneyNOTSOwell to you...



But you're right.

 

[DAS at 10/250]

That's HoneyNOTSOwell to you...

That's awesome.:laugh:

Never heard that before but will have to remember it.

 

[Jack Campbell]

The announcement said it would be a "Platinum Edition" Phenom 300, so it wouldn't surprise me to have an APU. Also, much of the fleet is Collins, so that makes sense, too.

 

[gutshotdraw]

That's awesome.:laugh:

Never heard that before but will have to remember it.

Thanks but I think we're required to reserve AWESOME for the Fischman. And I stole it from a corporate buddy anyway...

 

[jonjuan]

The Phenom 350 Platinum Edition that NetJets ordered 125 of will have several notable differences that set it apart from the standard Phenom 300.

An APU would not surprise me.

It should surprise you because it ain't happenin. BTW, it's the Phenom 300. Carry on.

 

[jtf]

I would love to see an APU in it, but my guess is less than 50 percent on that one. As far as changing the avionics- I put that at less than 10 percent. Embraer has had enough issues with computer glitches in past models that I would really hope we just let them iron out whatever glitches this one has in the next couple of years before any are delivered with a whole new set of potential glitches.

 

[FLYLOW22]

The P300 is still "just a light jet" - and as such the standard APU is the RH engine.

If Embraer put an APU on NJA aircraft then they'd almost HAVE to offer it on other customers' airframes...

They'd have to buy the 350 then... but it was designed for NetJets.

Platinum baby!!

 

[FLYLOW22]

It should surprise you because it ain't happenin. BTW, it's the Phenom 300. Carry on.

Actually, NetJets has placed an order for the Phenom 350. The 300 wasn't exclusive enough.

That was the word from HQ.

 

[paulsalem]

Press release:
http://www.netjets.com/Learn_More/Press_Releases/2010/pr2010_10_18.asp

 

[BoilerUP]

P300 looks better in "traditional" bizjet paint like the NJA scheme than the busy Embraer factory schemes, IMO...

 

[HAZ-MAT]

Rumor I heard this week on the road, was... we call it a "Platinum" which changes the name of the airplane so we don't have to use Simuflite for aircraft training. Apparently Embraer and Simuflite have an exclusive training agreement together on the Phenom 300, but you add "Platinum" to the name and you don't have the exclusive rights anymore... allowing Flight Safety to buy sims and train.
(just a rumor)

 

[BE40Driver]

Facts

It is NOT a P300 but in fact it is a EMB505.

 

[rajflyboy]

Rumor I heard this week on the road, was... we call it a "Platinum" which changes the name of the airplane so we don't have to use Simuflite for aircraft training. Apparently Embraer and Simuflite have an exclusive training agreement together on the Phenom 300, but you add "Platinum" to the name and you don't have the exclusive rights anymore... allowing Flight Safety to buy sims and train.
(just a rumor)

Simuflite does a good job! Why can't we go there? Ohhh.. ethically I guess we have to use FSI the Berkshire company

Am I ethically right on this?

 

[jppt2000]

Simuflite does a good job! Why can't we go there? Ohhh.. ethically I guess we have to use FSI the Berkshire company

Am I ethically right on this?

Ethics?
Just about everything you post on this message board is either incorrect or false.

 

[fischman]

Thanks but I think we're required to reserve AWESOME for the Fischman.

Many try to emulate me. Few succeed.

And I like how you add "the" in front of Fischman. That is indeed AWESOME, and is approved. imp:

 

[DAS at 10/250]

Many try to emulate me. Few succeed.

And I like how you add "the" in front of Fischman. That is indeed AWESOME, and is approved. imp:

So, would this be correct?

That new Phenom 300 Platinum is Awesome®!

Awesome is a registered trademark of THE FISCHMAN and may not be used, abused, or rebroadcast in whole or in part without the express written consent of THE FISCHMAN. All rights reserved. MMX

 

[HiSpeedFlyer]

So, would this be correct?

That new Phenom 300 Platinum is Awesome®!

Awesome is a registered trademark of THE FISCHMAN and may not be used, abused, or rebroadcast in whole or in part without the express written consent of THE FISCHMAN. All rights reserved. MMX

Now THAT is outstanding.......DAS get a Fischman award of Awesomeness, which can be redeemed for a cold case of Stag.

 

[FLYLOW22]

Awesome = Stag.

 

[jonjuan]

Awesome = Stag.

Thanks!

 

[FLYLOW22]

Therefore,

Stag = Awesome.