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RustyFan said:
This is what is so pathetic about you Teamsters, you bend the rules, you break airplanes, and you openly waste corporate funds that aren’t yours. You think because you drive the bus, you deserve what the guy in the back gets. And you’re willing to do anything it takes to get your way..........
.....You’re a lowball, stinking dirty piece of trash, and a disgrace to professional pilots. But that explains why you’re a Teamster. You bring that mentality to NJI and I can promise you a return ticket to “Perfectville” faster than you can spell grievance. You’re coming to my backyard to play, leave your toys at home, Dirt Bag!

Sir, I can truly say as a Teamster, I am offended....
As a professional pilot, I am even more offended.

Those thoughts you mindlessly spewed forth are the primary reason I won't go into your backyard and play,. **Deleted due to strong content**

Lets face it, Amigo, after reading what you have posted, why would I want to come into your backyard and play, with maybe the sole reason is to piss you off?

...And I wonder why I wont visit the Bitch boards much anymore.....
 
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I wonder if crustyfan would say that to an airline pilot represented by alpa.

Or maybe he just hates teamsters.

Whatever the guy probably kicks dogs for fun.
 
Its obvioius that Crusty Fan is ticked off because His "Master" sold him out and he has no other avenue to vent his frustration.

In all fairness, I did run into affew NJI guys yesterday and they actually congradulated us on these bids. These are the types of guys that represent the NJI pilot force in my opinion.

The extreme should not be allowed to paint the extire group in a negative tone....and that goes for our NJA guys as well.
 
Boy arent you guys in a big pissing contest among yourselves??....dont know if you have looked around but looks like this thread became self sustaining. Bashing among each other. WOW. I might want to apologize now for what I started. NOT! Ha.

Hey thanks for all the entertainment. Its been real, its been fun...in fact in HAS been REALLY FUNNY! Gotta go catch my airline home from paradise...
 
njowner that was a great post. i didnt want to believe that, that stuff was going on. It appears planes were grounded for no reason i guess thats why netjets lost 50 - 80 million last year. i have firsthand had owners change flights that have caused me to double position it happens. well said thanks for the input. i want to assure you not all pilots are that unprofessional and would not ground aircraft for cosmetic paint issues. by the way for those of us considering joining 1108 this type of conduct does not give us a warm a fuzzy. most of us are professional and would not go out of our way to do things like that. Thanks again for your input
 
To CitationsAre Fun: I think the cosmetic gounding" was before the contract was ratified. It was in late Sept.

Fly safe.
 
It is still troubling to me that the union put the owner in the middle. you are an innocent party and all you do is pay the bills that pay our bills. To me this was very unprofessional.
 
I guess its professional to violate the FAA rest and duty rules where you work.

If I were an owner with Operational Control over a 91K flight... I would not want to be liable in case there was an accident after the crew came on duty after having rest broken...

because there was no union to ensure breaking FAR prospective rest ... does not happen.

It costs more to follow the rules than to break them.... Maybe thats why NJ lost money... while the others cut corners....


Once again... if you follow the Rest rules where you work ... Thank a NJ Teamster... ALPA has. WE forced the FAA's hand.

Oh and if you just got a payraise after the new NJ CBA... say thank you teamsters.
 
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Its interesting becasue at Company Recurrent the head man came out and basically said that if he were in the Union's position he probably would have played the same tactic.......

Now its time to pull together and move on....and I believe we are doing so...much to the distress of our competition....
 
citationsarejun said:
njowner that was a great post. i didnt want to believe that, that stuff was going on. It appears planes were grounded for no reason i guess thats why netjets lost 50 - 80 million last year. i have firsthand had owners change flights that have caused me to double position it happens. well said thanks for the input. i want to assure you not all pilots are that unprofessional and would not ground aircraft for cosmetic paint issues. by the way for those of us considering joining 1108 this type of conduct does not give us a warm a fuzzy. most of us are professional and would not go out of our way to do things like that. Thanks again for your input

Hey, go ahead and just blame the union and it's pilots. So much for hearing the other side of the story. What is truly unprofessional is pointing the finger in one direction without knowing all the facts or circumstances surrounding the issues, especially as you are just an outsider. THAT is a sign of being unprofessional and immature!!!

Last but not least, you sound and look like a CS guy (I can see you guys coming from a mile away with talk like this). If so, dont open your mouth here and stab us in the back when infact we got YOU a raise!
 
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