NJA Bashing (Might as well)

[Guitar rocker]

As with most things in life, the truth is not at either end of the spectrum. It is somewhere in the middle.

Originally Posted by Guitar rocker
If we are at the airport eating lunch and the passengers show up early, we cant say, "I'll be with you in 25 minutes when I am done eating my sandwhich and my official lunch break ends."

3 or 4 times last fall I did sit in the FBO for a while when the pilot said he landed X minutes ago and he gets a minimum of a 1 hour turn. Irritated me but I know the rationale and its roots in safety. Flip side is I have probably had 10 times more flights where the pilots allowed a "quick turn". Please don't say it NEVER happens -- sometimes it does ... rare but it does happen.

Also last fall, had a flight delayed for what the pilot showed me was a 3/4 inch scratch on the door, not even through all the layers of paint. Owner services said the reason for delay was a scratch on the door. PIC showed it to me. We needed to wait for a new plane. I saw the jet land while we were in the FBO and was not sure how the scratch got there. Probably before our the positioning leg but it was not pointed out until we were ready to go. Again, very rare, but don't say never.

I can say, things have improved since the ratification of the contract.

Re: efficiency and waste. I do not know nearly as much as all of you, but a good bit of waste is caused by the owners, paid for by the owners, and is one of the reasons we fly private. I have had instances where planes have been positioned and plans changed. You guys may not know the reason for the change in my plans, but may just see it as waste. Yes -- I am sure there is waste. But just realize much of it is in the name of services to the owners.

Thanks to all. I am flying this week.

Fly safe.

NJAowner, I do see your point. However, my comparison concerning unions was the fact that at a factory unionized floor, union workers are required to take time off and breaks throughout the day whereby nothing gets done. In our case, we are given an hour between flights and much of the time, we need that. However, we have the right to waive that unlike a factory union worker. That is my point.

 

[TORCH67]

It's easy to make judgments about how the aircraft were grounded before the contract was voted in. Perception carries a large bias when looking at any of the instances. Owners knew we were in heavy negotiations with the company. Not one pilot was fired for writing up a jet with a problem!!! We may have been a little apt to look for things back then, but I for one never tried to directly inconvenience a owner's trip. The turn time is still a problem these days. I have been on numerous tours where they schedule quick turn after quick turn to make the schedule work. When I was a FO, there were times I wouldn't leave the jet for 8 hours sometimes. Speaking for myself, I hope NJAOWNER and all of our owners have a wonderful experience from now on.

These people trying to slam Netjets and our pilots by bringing this up are really reaching. The only reason could be that they are afraid of what Netjets will do now that we have a contract and the pilots are happy. Go ahead and keep slamming Netjets and our Union and we will see who is still around in a few years.

 

[cush]

Speaking for myself, I hope NJAOWNER and all of our owners have a wonderful experience from now on.

I think you speak for all of us. It's time to show what kind of service a properly motivated pilot group can provide. We owe it to our owners.