NJ A/C Choice

[flagshipper]

So another question. Which fleets are growing and which are shrinking? 680, Encore+, X are growing I suspect while the Ultra, Beechjet are shrinking?

 

[Jafo73]

So another question. Which fleets are growing and which are shrinking? 680, Encore+, X are growing I suspect while the Ultra, Beechjet are shrinking?

X, Beechjet, and Encore are stagnant. 680, XLS+, and Encore+ are growing. Don't know about the rest of the fleet

 

[Fozzy]

XLS+ is not here yet so it is not growing or doing anything. I don't even recall a bid for that fleet yet. My guess is late summer for the XLS+.
IMHO, the roomiest cockpit in a Citation would be the XL/XLS. The X and Sov is just stuffed with a lot more equipment.
As a side note, Citation has possibly the worst cockpit seats available. Absolutely suck. I believe they are made by the same folks that make the cabin seats for the RJ. The XL seats are worse than the Ultra! YOU hear me Cessna, you build a crap cockpit!:angryfire

As for the G200/Falcon I don't see many new hires getting a chance there as they seem to be going to FO's already on the property.
I don't see the Ultra fleet being completely gone for another 2 years.
I will edit when I get solid info on that.

 

[fischman]

Here's the latest stats I have on the Ultra. As of last month, we still operated 60. We are losing about 9/ year. They are not anticipating having to do displacements for another 3 years due to people bidding off of it. Fleet should be totally off line in less than 6 years. TCAS should be installed in every ship by the end of 2008.


Disclaimer: This is what I HEARD. These are not hard numbers. This can change.

 

[tk855]

X, Beechjet, and Encore are stagnant. 680, XLS+, and Encore+ are growing. Don't know about the rest of the fleet

Don't forget the G200 and the 800XPC/900, both of those fleets are growing considerably. Summary: Encore+, 680, G200, and 800/900XPC are all expanding fleets.

 

[av8tor4239]

still taking deliveries of xls's just flew one with 100 hours

 

[flagshipper]

Thanks for all the info. So many guys make their aircraft decision on what is the biggest or coolest but I was just trying to find out which one would get me the best QOL in the shortest amount of time. Thanks Also is NJ getting Hawker 4000s or is that a NJE thing? Also does NJ have Hawker 1000s anymore?

 

[Willy21]

No 1000's, they all left in '06. The 4000 is now on the books for June, I will believe it when I see one on the ramp, with a total of 6 by the end of the year.

 

[rydog]

They are not anticipating having to do displacements for another 3 years due to people bidding off of it. Fleet should be totally off line in less than 6 years. This can change.

Well i hope it does change, I want them gone in less than 3 years. I hope my displacement plan works thanks for the info.

Also, if i volunteered to displace when it came up, would i incur a new lock-in?

 

[fischman]

Well i hope it does change, I want them gone in less than 3 years. I hope my displacement plan works thanks for the info.

Also, if i volunteered to displace when it came up, would i incur a new lock-in?

No. Read section 5.7(C) of the CBA.