General Lee
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You don't need to sell me anything on this board...your merger committee needs to sell your position to the arbitrators. Apparently, the arbitrators were receptive to the idea of a dynamic list. I'm not sure why you insist NWA is a USAir replica, but you know quite well NWA was not a failing enterprise which DAL rescued and you also know quite well the list awarded in that case is widely criticized by everyone except form AWA pilots. I sure hope you don't expect a repeat or you may end up in a severe depression.
Why is your sided against dynamic seniorty? It's because the attrition at NWA is much greater than DAL. I've looked at the crystal ball, and I fair much better under relative with dynamic than with DOH. This is strictly due to NWA attitrion. Everyone's mileage will differ depending on several variables (age, DOH, hiring patterns...). You like to preach DAL retirements are superior long term to NWA. If so, you should be in favor of the dynamic concept as well--but you're not. Wonder why? Fortunately, three wise men will give us a list in a few weeks. If you really have your hopes up for your slotted ratios, I know some good anti-suicide counselors who can help you out. It just isn't going to happen. When asked if placing 2008 hires ahead of 2000 hires was fair, you own DALPA rep couldn't even answer the question. You lost a lot of credibility with the arbitrators with DALPA's lopsided proposal. Truth will be shown soon enough. Take care.
Schwanker
I can tell you your attrition is greater in the near term, not the long term. I have the numbers to prove it. As far as the arbitrators go, they have to be sold on certain ideas, and I am sure they will listen to anything. And, our lopsided proposal was given a lot of credibility last week. I can't really go into what was shown. Anyway, the truth will be shown soon, and the USAir model isn't only used for who was failing and who wasn't, but for like sized carriers. USAir was failing, but still got the top 500 spots thanks to what it brought to the merged company. You can try to say our case is different, but not in every way. If we expanded (paid money for 17 AA 757ERs while Steenland horded cash and looked for a merger partner) and hired a lot of pilots, should they all go behind your furloughed pilots? Is that fair? I think our Dalpa rep could answer that. That was Steenland holding back expansion, and that wasn't our fault. Looking forward to getting this over with too, and no suicide counselors needed over here. I still haven't seen any testimony favoring your side at all, except the thing you guys are placing all bets on---Bloch saying "we are equals."
Bye Bye--General Lee
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