New Pinnacle Management team

[Flyer1015]

You posted that stuff before I had the chance to respond. See my above post. I take it back for those who attended prior to 9/11, as it was a good and reasonably priced school back then, and the industry didn't really require a back up degree like it does today.

 

[Monster Buck]

Geese flyer, again that's your value system for you. Try to make the paradigm shift and look at it different. Some people can sh!t 100k and not blink twice. My brother in law is one of them, if his kid likes the ERAU product guess what he goes there. We all get that if you are looking for just fbo tickets ERAU is not for you. Riddle has very good professors and you can come out with much more aeronautical knowledge from a U like that. Some people actually enjoy and want that. They are proud to have a top school as their Alma mater. Just like you are proud to work at VA, that's a good thing. That's my point, not everyone is just looking for a cheap way to get licenses. A great many on this forum just got in for the money, its not that way for everyone. Contrary to popular belief we don't all do this for the same reasons.

 

[mesaba13]

Not trying to flame but I would be interested to know what each of these select individuals listed received their degrees in. I would bet that the list would read: Engineering, Physics, etc. instead of BS in Aviation Sciences.

I just clicked on three different people on the list and not one received their undergraduate from Riddle. Two of them were US Air Force Academy Graduates and the other was from Carnegie Mellon. Some got a masters from Riddle while other received Honorary degrees, meaning they never set foot on the ERAU campus.

 

[jynxyjericho]

Not trying to flame but I would be interested to know what each of these select individuals listed received their degrees in. I would bet that the list would read: Engineering, Physics, etc. instead of BS in Aviation Sciences.

I had friends in school in Engineering Physics, they didn't have a whole lot of time for flying (or anything). Example: poor a glass of water on your countertop, now express that as an equation, now derive that equation. Great, if you can do that you'll have the foundation to learn at the course level 3 classes. Remember, those level 4 classes won't be quite so easy kids, so enjoy this easy stuff while you can.

 

[Flyer1015]

Geese flyer, again that's your value system for you. Try to make the paradigm shift and look at it different. Some people can sh!t 100k and not blink twice. My brother in law is one of them, if his kid likes the ERAU product guess what he goes there. We all get that if you are looking for just fbo tickets ERAU is not for you. Riddle has very good professors and you can come out with much more aeronautical knowledge from a U like that. Some people actually enjoy and want that. They are proud to have a top school as their Alma mater. Just like you are proud to work at VA, that's a good thing. That's my point, not everyone is just looking for a cheap way to get licenses. A great many on this forum just got in for the money, its not that way for everyone. Contrary to popular belief we don't all do this for the same reasons.

One can go to Riddle for a degree, but you'd be a fool to spend the money that they charge to rent their own airplanes! What's the difference between their aircraft and a FBO aircraft? At least a good 40-100+/hr. How about instructor fees. How much is Riddle? Probably another 70-80/hr.

Why would you take on that much debt to start at a regional paying $24k the first year?

I personally know two Riddle grads, one at Mesa, still stuck there and he cannot pay for this ERAU loans on RJ FO salary. His wife helps him, and from talking to him, he has said it was the biggest mistake of his life.

Bernoulli's principle will work the same for you when you fly a Cessna 152 out of a FBO as it would out of the ERAU ramp.

 

[Flyer1015]

Some people can sh!t 100k and not blink twice. My brother in law is one of them, if his kid likes the ERAU product guess what he goes there.

Then more power to them. Enjoy the predominantly more male college, what's the term? Sausage fest? I digress. He'd be much better going to a state school and flying out of a local airport. For example, going to Penn State university if you live in PA, and flying out of SCE (KUNV) on your own time.

If he really can "s**t" 100k and not look twice, then throw it in a retirement fund because by the time Obambi is done with this country, you won't have any government programs left after they all crash and burn. Or put that in a fund he can have his son draw out of on 1st and 2nd year RJ salary.

As for those honorary type people you quoted, how many of them did ERAU for a masters, PHd, and/or for engineering degrees? And how many of them actually did the flight school program? It's a moot point, because back in the 80s and 90s, flying was actually affordable. Today, at ERAU, it's highway robbery for flying costs.

Most importantly, if you are entering the piloting profession, you need a good backup. There are two main reasons, if you lose a medical, or get long-term furlough. In either case, you need a good backup to continue making money and providing for your family. In case of ERAU for the PILOT program:

Aeronautical ScienceAeronautical Science, the professional pilot program at Embry-Riddle, offers the most advanced flight training curriculum of any university in the world.

Just what do you think a bachelor degree in "Aeronautical Science" is going to provide as a backup? What job can you reach out and obtain with a bachelor in "aviation science." Good luck in that. I've personally flown with ERAU graduates who openly tell me their aviation science degree isn't worth squat*. (* a nicer "s" word inserted, use your imagination for what they really said).

 

[jynxyjericho]

Just what do you think a bachelor degree in "Aeronautical Science" is going to provide as a backup?

For me?
Aircraft dispatch (minor, just had to pass the checkride)
Aircraft certification EMI technician
Operations Management
plus the CFI'ing bit

Anyway. I'm sure others can illuminate us.

 

[Kaman]

Hey Joe,
How you been? Gotta get together for some BBQ one of these days...

 

[Flyer1015]

For me?
Aircraft dispatch (minor, just had to pass the checkride)
Aircraft certification EMI technician
Operations Management
plus the CFI'ing bit

Anyway. I'm sure others can illuminate us.

None of these require a college degree, with the exception of a management position. Face it, it's a useless degree.

 

[JumpersAway]

None of these require a college degree, with the exception of a management position. Face it, it's a useless degree.

Frankly, just about any degree you graduate with now is useless- except with something health or medical based. The economy treading water, and college graduates are having quite a bit of difficulty obtaining employment pertinent to their majors, across the board.

 

[jynxyjericho]

Hey Joe,
How you been? Gotta get together for some BBQ one of these days...

Doing good Hoss, in SC now, its Mustard BBQ down here, PM sent.

 

[jynxyjericho]

None of these require a college degree, with the exception of a management position. Face it, it's a useless degree.

Eh, I would interject the only thing useless here is you. However, stay in school kids, Flyer is just one angry diatribe from living in a van down by the river.

Frankly, just about any degree you graduate with now is useless- except with something health or medical based. The economy treading water, and college graduates are having quite a bit of difficulty obtaining employment pertinent to their majors, across the board.

Speak truth to power homie.

 

[Flyer1015]

The advice should be, stay in school, and make sure you don't go to a rip off "brand name" school that will put you $200k in debt to do a job that will start you off at $24k.