New pilot eager for advice!!!!

[NYCPilot]

Change your user name. It sounds ridiculous.

 

[pilotyip]

Lots of jobs

Funny all of our pilots looking for a job can find one. 9 pilots in two months have found other jobs, Kalitta, Atlas, ATI, AirWisc, Champion, Flex Jets, to name a few. I know other pilots have turned down jobs waiting for other jobs. Looks like the 2007 hiring boom is on track.

 

[dream2fly2007]

Thanks for all the replies and sorry it took a while to respond.

There seems to be a lot of opinions on how to do this. I have my heart set on a flight academy. Two of my top picks right now are: Delta Airlines Academy and Flight Safety. Does anyone have any experiences with these places? Or any other suggestions?

 

[mayday1]

I have my heart set on a flight academy. Two of my top picks right now are: Delta Airlines Academy and Flight Safety. Does anyone have any experiences with these places? Or any other suggestions?

so you have your heart set on spending 2-3x the amount it would cost for the same or better quality training at a local FBO.. not to mention your living expenses that you might not have if you could live at home??

DCA has nice flashy ads, hoping to draw in people like yourself.. this board is full of experience pilots who will tell you that you're wasting your money. Do board seaches on DCA.. there have been people who have spent $80-$100k at that place, only not to be "hired" by DCA... Good God!! But go tour DCA and see their "multi-million dollar facility" and then tell us what you think.

 

[414Flyer]

Dont go into this with your "heart" use your head.

Nothing wrong with going pt 61 though, and paying as you go. You will probably actually have fun sometimes, as opposed to being in a regimented program, and you can pay as you go, compared to some of these "academies" or schools where you pay everything up front.

If you are dead set on going to an academy, then at least get your private first at a local operation, so you arent laying out a huge sum of money first, without knowing whether it will be for you, since a lot of these places absolutely do not like to give refunds.

Investigate if there is a way to do all locally still. It can save you a ton of money, since you can still work, and not have to pick up and move somewhere else.

These flight academies will tell you all kinds of things to get you to come over and hand over a buttload of cash. Take anything they say with the proverbial grain of salt.

MANY students have gotten burned financially by doing the large flashy academy route, by unscrupulous operators or places that went bust. Look at the airman flight school story, or TAB express, and see what can happen.

 

[mayday1]

These flight academies will tell you all kinds of things to get you to come over and hand over a buttload of cash. Take anything they say with the proverbial grain of salt.

keep in mind, these people are SALES people.. they make their money by getting you to sign up.. they WILL tell you/guarantee you anything they think you want to hear.... ever bought a car?

 

[FN FAL]

keep in mind, these people are SALES people.. they make their money by getting you to sign up.. they WILL tell you/guarantee you anything they think you want to hear.... ever bought a car?

It's not a crime, the schools give exactly what they promise...ratings and an interview.

 

[mayday1]

It's not a crime, the schools give exactly what they promise...ratings and an interview.

ah, but to get that interview... they'll quickly gloss over all that fine print that deals with employment contracts, CFI hiring numbers, average cost (which everyone exceeds), etc. I visited DCA way back when... things might have changed, but they're really just interested in your money.

 

[polysciguy9]

Get your medical before making any long term plans - you never know when a medical issue you were never aware of might come up in your evaluation and either delay, or perhaps prohibit your dream. My medical circumstances took so long to take care of that I went to college, then to grad school, and fell into a different career. I recently decided to pursue the dream again, and surprise, another medical issue (one that shouldn't be an issue at all). I agree with the college advice too, though. As much as I would have loved to have been flying commercially at 20, you can't replace your college memories. Best time of my life.

 

[FN FAL]

ah, but to get that interview... they'll quickly gloss over all that fine print that deals with employment contracts, CFI hiring numbers, average cost (which everyone exceeds), etc. I visited DCA way back when... things might have changed, but they're really just interested in your money.

Yea, I tured that DCA way back when as well...got the free flight there and back. What a bunch of snake oil salesmen.

I wound up going to a place that was much cheaper. The pvt-mei program was 24,999.00 with apartment. The deal was, 19,999.00 up front and the other 5,000 due in interest free payments after graduation and three interviews...the interviews were found by the "placement" director.

In other words, if they didn't find you three interviews, you got to keep your 5,000.00 bucks. They laid off their placement director and gave me no interview referalls, so when they sent the letter asking for that 5K I just tore it up. I call it a bridge program in reverse.

 

[RichardRambone]

Defenetely get a degree not related to aviation. I have my BS in Aviation technology and it was too late to turn back before I realized what a generally worthless degree it is. Get a practical degree in something that interests you but get those ratings on the side. I love flying and regardless of what others say I have nothing to lose by being a pro pilot right now in my life. It pays the bills and its better than anyone else's job I know. Granted Im single with no debt someday that will change and I worry everyday about what Im gonna do once the bottom falls out later in my career. Im still looking for a backup plan. Good luck to you.

 

[bluesky421]

I did all of my training part 61. I highly recommend that route if you can afford it, but its harder to get a loan part 61. I work as a line guy, and I think it was the smartest thing i ever did. I have networked with pilots of different companies, got to go on rides with them. I eventually started flying with them as a contract pilot, and thats what I'm doing now. I'm going to a Community College to get my gen-ed reqs out of the way, all the while working at the port. I have flown so many interesting aircraft that I wouldn't have gotten to had i left for another school.

 

[MDAutry]

The problem with DCA is that they do not guarantee a job interview. The devil is in the details. If 98% of people were really getting "great" jobs then you would not hear people on these boards who are so against the program. Also know that if you are not chosen by them to continue their program after the initail 30-40K spent on your initial ratings you will not be guaranteed an interview.

 

[MDAutry]

Oh yeah the most important part. GET A COLLEGE DEGREE!!!
It is of no importance how you get it, online or otherwise... just get one

 

[dojetdriver]

One word: Military

I am not a recruiter, nor a professional pilot. But seeing all the out of work pilots I would not plan on flying as a career. Especially starting out with only civilian hours. I know former military pilots with close to 8000 hrs, former airline pilots, who cannot find a pilot job. I would recommend checking out any of the services, let them pay for your training and hours.

Good luck...

I agree here to a point. Get your ratings, get your time up, and try to get a 121 job and some expierence. While you are still young, try to secure a reserve/gaurd slot. You take your time off (and continue to build senority, one hell of an important thing), get military trained and hopefully flying heavies or tactical jets. Before long you will probably get to aicraft commander and/or rj capatin. This combination of experience is highly marketable.

You could also do the reverse order, go gaurd/reserve and then get a 121 job but you can loose on the senority, which might matter down the raod if the crap hits the fan in the civilan market.

Both roads give you excellent experience and well as incredible networking oppurtunities for a job later down the road at a major.

Just my 2 cents, after a displacement and a furlough, it's now more like .05 cents.